[B-Greek] The personal pronoun for he, she and it

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 2 08:58:57 EST 2007


That does make a difference.  I will with pleasure retract my judgment that the professor was in error.  Apparently I had missed the detail that this was a classical Greek course.

 
george
gfsomsel
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----- Original Message ----
From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Cc: Christopher Shelton <christophershelt at bellsouth.net>; B-Greek <B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org>; Greek Study <greekstudy at nxport.com>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 7:02:56 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] The personal pronoun for he, she and it


The problem, however, is that Christopher's course is in classical  
Attic, and it's quite true that AUTOS is not appropriate as a simple  
3rd-person pronoun in classical Attic. EKEINOS may be used, as  
suggested; hOUTOS could also be used, so also could hODE/hHDE/TODE.  
Under the right circumstances the article or relative pronoun could  
be used -- but AUTOS in classical Attic is ordinarily going to be  
intensive.

Carl W. Conrad

On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:47 PM, George F Somsel wrote:

> It isn't my greatest wish to criticise some professor who is  
> teaching a course; however, unless you have misunderstood what was  
> said, I must disagree.  AUTOS is the simple 3rd pn while EKEINOS is  
> a demonstrative.  It is the difference between "he ("she" or "it")"  
> and "that one."  As an indication of how frequently it is used,  
> AUTOS, -H, -O appears 273 times in the nominative in the NT while  
> EKEINOS, -H, -O appears 107 times in the NT in the nominative.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> _________
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Christopher Shelton <christophershelt at bellsouth.net>
> To: B-Greek <B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org>; Greek Study  
> <greekstudy at nxport.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:23:35 PM
> Subject: [B-Greek] The personal pronoun for he, she and it
>
>
> To One and All--
>      My professor steered us away from using the personal pronoun for
> he, she, it (AUTOS) in the nominative case (as a subject).  Instead  
> she
> advised that we use the demonstrative, EKEINOS.  I am wondering what
> other alternative might serve as a personal pronoun in place of
> EKEINOS?  Thank you.
>
> -- 
> Christopher Shelton
> Fort Lauderdale, Florida, U.S.A.
> christophershelt at bellsouth.net
> tel. (954) 463-9624



 
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