[B-Greek] advice on polytonic XP within Int. Explorer

Randall Buth randallbuth at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 07:46:59 EST 2007


Thank you, James.
this is coming from the just-installed Firefox and I can confirm that my
Greek polytonic on Gmail's website was visιble and correct.
Thank you, Firefox.
καὶ τῷ ΙΕ εἴπω -- "καὶ αἰσχύνη τῷ ΙΕ γενοιτ΄ ἄν."
εὐχαριστῶ
Ἰωάνης

On 2/8/07, James Tauber <jtauber at jtauber.com> wrote:
>
> I see them, but I'm on a Mac at the moment :-)
>
> As your second email confirms, it's an IE issue, which is what I
> suspected.
>
> If you don't have control over the page itself, the only option is to
> somehow tell IE to ignore whatever font choice the page owner has
> made and force the use of Arial Unicode MS or similar.
>
> The next challenge is what to use for a fixed-width font. I have yet
> to find a decent fixed-width font with extended greek code points.
>
> So one alternative on Windows is to try the Firefox browser.
>
> James
>
>
> On 08/02/2007, at 6:40 AM, Randall Buth wrote:
>
> > Arial Unicode MS has all of the composite Greek points. So my
> > question is how to get IE to properly disply a polytonic text?
> > Question:  do you see the next line clearly?
> > ἔρρωσο καὶ εὐχαριστῶ σοι
> > I typed in polytonic unicode, though I see a few boxes here in this
> > Gmail window.
> > Do you see all letters clearly?
> >
> > Randall
> >
> >
> > On 2/8/07, James Tauber <jtauber at jtauber.com> wrote: I'm fairly
> > sure that in Internet Explorer, you need to make sure the
> > font being used supports the code points you are using.
> >
> > Firefox (and Macs) behaves differently in that if you use a code
> > point for which a glyph is not available in the current font, an
> > alternative font is substituted for just that character. In contrast,
> > Internet Explorer just produce a box. Neither approach is necessarily
> > more correct, it's just Firefox on Windows (and most apps on Macs)
> > favour displaying the character over getting the font family
> > consistent.
> >
> > See http://jtauber.com/blog/2005/09/03/font_fallback for some more
> > details.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > James Tauber
> >
> > On 08/02/2007, at 5:35 AM, Randall Buth wrote:
> >
> > > XAIREIN,
> > >
> > > I am back on an XP machine (ServicePack2) and trying to remember
> > > the fastest
> > > way to set the Internet Explorer to recognize composed-Greek
> > unicode.
> > >
> > > (Yes, Greek is already activated in the "Language" section of the
> > > Control
> > > Panel, "Polytonic Greek" is one of the activated keyboard input
> > > devices, and
> > > the keyboard works in other programs.) In Explorer on this Gmail
> > > site it
> > > produces little boxes whenever a 'phthongos', 'perispomenos' or
> > > 'bareia' is
> > > typed with a vowel. Obviously, it is interpreting unicode Greek,
> > > but doing
> > > so monotonally. And also obviously, the keyboard is functioning
> > > properly and
> > > outputting composite Greek unicode, since little boxes appear on
> > > the site as
> > > viewed thru Internet Explorer.
> > >
> > > Bottom line--what is the fastest way to configure XP to recognize
> > > composite
> > > Greek unicode,
> > > and if a particular font needs to be chosen and specified
> > > somewhere, which
> > > unicode font already works?
> > > (e.g., Arial Unicode MS, should work, interalia.)
> > >
> > > EUXARISTW
> > > Randall Buth
> > >
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>


-- 
Randall Buth, PhD
www.biblicalulpan.org
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