[B-Greek] This is my body (Luk 22:19)

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 17 16:29:47 EST 2007


George,

My post could be understood as a question rather than a bomb :-)

TOUTO ESTIN TO SWMA MOU

Wouldn't we expect a demonstrative X in a

X ESTIN Y clause to be in agreement with Y?

Think of it as a question for discussion, not as a bomb :-)
That goes for my comments about Wallace as well, just questions.


Elizabeth Kline



On Feb 17, 2007, at 1:19 PM, George F Somsel wrote:

> Elizabeth,
>
>
> So how would you explain the agreement of TOUTO with SWMA rather  
> than with ARTON?  Don't just drop a bomb on us.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> _________
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>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
> To: greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:14:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] This is my body (Luk 22:19)
>
> On Feb 17, 2007, at 10:48 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
>
> > KAI LABWN ARTON EUXARISTHSAS EKLASEN KAI EDWKEN AUTOIS LEGWN,
> > "TOUTO ESTIN TO SWMA MOU hUPER hUMWN DIDOMENON; TOUTO POIEITE EIS
> > THN EMHN ANAMNHSIN
> >
> > While it is true that ARTOS is masculine gender and TOUTO is neuter
> > and thus does not agree with it, I think it would be a mistake to
> > conclude that it does not thereby indicate the bread.  The
> > demonstative is rather far removed from its referent and is much
> > closer to SWMA with which the bread is being equated so that the
> > gender of the demonstrative is attracted to the gender of SWMA.
>
> While I agree that TOUTO is co-referential with ARTON, the notion of
> "attraction" which is used in most NT greek grammars seems like a non-
> explanation.
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
>
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