[B-Greek] EN + human locative of sphere

Wayne Leman wayne_leman at sil.org
Mon Jan 8 18:52:04 EST 2007


>  Wayne Leman wrote:
>> Would any of you be able to come up with a few examples of EN + a  human
>> locative of sphere in corpora other than the N.T.? I am trying to  find 
>> out
>> how widespread was usage parallel to EN XRISTW, EN KURIW, etc.  outside 
>> the
>> N.T. corpus. I've tried Perseus but I'm not very good at using that
>> resource.
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> I think this is a trick question. The inclusion of "human" as a  selection 
> criteria makes it a question with a trap built in, the trap  is you cannot 
> discuss it on b-greek. If you raise the question does  Paul's use of EN 
> XRISTWi as a mystical state focus on the humanity of  Jesus you are doing 
> christology which is a no-no in this forum.

No, it's not a trick question at all, Elizabeth, and I was not interested in 
any theological issues. I am only interested in the semantics. In my case, 
as a translator, I an interested in how EN XRISTW might be translated to 
some naturally occurring English form. I have thought about the EN + XRISTW 
and related constructions for a number of years. The reason I added the 
human semantic element is that I am unaware that a non-human can have the 
same semantic role as XRISTW or KURIW.

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> I was able to find some examples of EN TWi DII (not human!) in  Proclus 
> (5th c. AD) but even there Carl's question would come up, is  this a 
> locative or is it insturmental and in reference to QEOS (not  human!) 
> there is EN AUTW MESW in Dio Chrysostom (1st&2nd AD). None of  these meet 
> the criteria Wayne set down so I will not bother to post  them.

Thanks for taking the time to look that up,
Wayne
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Wayne Leman
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