[B-Greek] Reading gibberish
Jonathan Robie
jwrobie at mindspring.com
Fri Jun 8 22:43:19 EDT 2007
Hi Delbert,
According to these posts, Hotmail has problems with UTF-8:
http://codeka.com/blogs/index.php/dean/2005/06/06/hello_hotmail
You are reading these messages from inside your web browser, right? Are you using Internet Explorer?
Also, when I send these messages, I send two versions of the same text, one in Unicode, and one in the usual B-Greek encoding. Can you see one of the two versions in the mail you get or not?
A service that is similar to Hotmail, but handles Unicode beautifully, is gmail.com. Of course, Internet Explorer sometimes has problems with international fonts; Firefox is much better at that.
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>Sent: Jun 8, 2007 7:15 PM
>To: Delbert Flora <delbert.flora at hotmail.com>
>Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Reading gibberish
>
>In all probability you need to alter your TEXT ENCODING for such
>messages to "Unicode (UTF-8)" I don't know what mail program you're
>using -- it may very well be one that doesn't (yet) handle Unicode. I
>dropped Eudora a couple years ago for precisely that reason and
>adopted a program that does handle Unicode. BUT in the case of
>individual messages if you run into this sort of gobbledygook, you
>ought to check the "text encoding" in your "message" menu (different
>perhaps for different mail programs) and set that so that it will
>accept UTF-8 Unicode.
>
>On the other hand, it looks like you couldn't even display the plain-
>text ASCII properly. You need to experiment with your settings. It
>may be that you need to change your mail program to something that
>(a) is easily adjusted, (b) accepts Unicode text encoding.
>
>On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Delbert Flora wrote:
>
>> Please pardon me if this has been discussed but I am seeing more
>> and more postings like what I see below....nothing but gibberish.
>> Is there a setting I need to adjust at my end (with hotmail)?
>>
>>> Luke 5:35 á¼Î»Îµá½»ÏƒÎ¿Î½Ï„αι δὲ
>>> ἡμέÏαι, καὶ
>>> á½
>> ταν ἀπαÏθῇ ἀπ᾿ Î
>> ±á½Ï„ῶν ὠνÏ
>> μφίος,
>>> τότε νηστεύσοÏ
>> σιν á¼Î½ á¼ÎºÎµá½·Î½Î±Î¹Ï‚
>>> ταῖς ἡμέÏαις. 36
>>> Ἔλεγεν δὲ καὶ
>>> παÏαβολὴν Ï€Ïὸς Î
>>> ±á½Ï„οὺς á½
>> τι οá½Î´Îµá½¶Ï‚
>>> á¼Ï€á½·Î²Î»Î·Î¼Î± ἀπὸ á¼
>>> ±Î¼Î±Ï„ίοÏ
>> καινοῦ
>>> σχίσας á¼Ï€Î¹Î²á½
>>> ±Î»Î»ÎµÎ¹ á¼Ï€á½¶ ἱμάÏ
>>> „ιον
>>> παλαιόν· εἰ δὲ
>>> μή γε, καὶ τὸ κÎ
>>> ±Î¹Î½á½¸Î½
>>> σχίσει καὶ τῷ Ï€Î
>>> ±Î»Î±Î¹á¿· οὠσÏ
>> μφωνήσει
>>> τὸ á¼Ï€á½·Î²Î»Î·Î¼Î± τὸ á¼
>>> €Ï€á½¸ τοῦ καινοῦ
>>
>>
>> Delbert Flora
>>
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>
>Carl W. Conrad
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