[B-Greek] Reading gibberish

Jonathan Robie jwrobie at mindspring.com
Fri Jun 8 22:43:19 EDT 2007


Hi Delbert,

According to these posts, Hotmail has problems with UTF-8:

http://codeka.com/blogs/index.php/dean/2005/06/06/hello_hotmail

You are reading these messages from inside your web browser, right? Are you using Internet Explorer?

Also, when I send these messages, I send two versions of the same text, one in Unicode, and one in the usual B-Greek encoding. Can you see one of the two versions in the mail you get or not?

A service that is similar to Hotmail, but handles Unicode beautifully, is gmail.com. Of course, Internet Explorer sometimes has problems with international fonts; Firefox is much better at that.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>Sent: Jun 8, 2007 7:15 PM
>To: Delbert Flora <delbert.flora at hotmail.com>
>Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Reading gibberish
>
>In all probability you need to alter your TEXT ENCODING for such  
>messages to "Unicode (UTF-8)" I don't know what mail program you're  
>using -- it may very well be one that doesn't (yet) handle Unicode. I  
>dropped Eudora a couple years ago for precisely that reason and  
>adopted a program that does handle Unicode. BUT in the case of  
>individual messages if you run into this sort of gobbledygook, you  
>ought to check the "text encoding" in your "message" menu (different  
>perhaps for different mail programs) and set that so that it will  
>accept UTF-8 Unicode.
>
>On the other hand, it looks like you couldn't even display the plain- 
>text ASCII properly. You need to experiment with your settings. It  
>may be that you need to change your mail program to something that  
>(a) is easily adjusted, (b) accepts Unicode text encoding.
>
>On Jun 8, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Delbert Flora wrote:
>
>> Please pardon me if this has been discussed but I am seeing more  
>> and more postings like what I see below....nothing but gibberish.  
>> Is there a setting I need to adjust at my end (with hotmail)?
>>
>>> Luke 5:35 ἐλεύσονται δὲ  
>>> ἡμέραι, καὶ
>>> á½
>> ταν ἀπαρθῇ ἀπ᾿ Π
>> ±á½Ï„ῶν ὁ νÏ
>> μφίος,
>>> τότε νηστεύσοÏ
>> σιν ἐν ἐκείναις
>>> ταῖς ἡμέραις.  36  
>>> Ἔλεγεν δὲ καὶ
>>> παραβολὴν πρὸς Π
>>> ±á½Ï„οὺς á½
>> τι οὐδεὶς
>>> ἐπίβλημα ἀπὸ ἠ
>>> ±Î¼Î±Ï„ίοÏ
>> καινοῦ
>>> σχίσας ἐπιβὠ
>>> ±Î»Î»ÎµÎ¹ ἐπὶ á¼±Î¼á½±Ï 
>>> „ιον
>>> παλαιόν· εἰ δὲ  
>>> μή γε, καὶ τὸ κΠ
>>> ±Î¹Î½á½¸Î½
>>> σχίσει καὶ τῷ πΠ
>>> ±Î»Î±Î¹á¿· οὐ σÏ
>> μφωνήσει
>>> τὸ ἐπίβλημα τὸ ἠ
>>> €Ï€á½¸ τοῦ καινοῦ
>>
>>
>> Delbert Flora
>>
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>
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