[B-Greek] Luke 3:9 hHDH ** DE KAI ** hH AXINH PROS THN hRIZAN TWN DENDRWN KEITAI
William Warren
wfwarren at aol.com
Fri Jun 8 10:31:44 EDT 2007
Jonathan, while perhaps typical of Luke, I would say that it is
simply typical period. Here is a readout on just the NT and AF from
Accordance:
Total Hits per
Hits 1000 words
Matthew 6 0.25
Mark 2 0.13
Luke 28 1.08
John 9 0.43
Acts 19 0.81
Romans 2 0.22
1Corinthians 10 1.13
2Corinthians 6 1.07
Galatians 0 0.00
Ephesians 2 0.66
Philippians 3 1.44
Colossians-
2Thessalonians 0 0.00
1Timothy 4 1.95
2Timothy 1 0.63
Titus 1 1.14
Philemon 3 6.94
Hebrews 2 0.32
James 2 0.83
1Peter 0 0.00
2Peter 2 1.37
1John-
3John 0 0.00
Jude 1 1.51
Revelation 0 0.00
Total Hits per
Hits 1000 words
1Clem. 4 0.33
2Clem. 4 1.10
Eph. 1 0.45
Mag. 0 0.00
Tral. 2 1.64
Rom. 1 0.74
Phila. 0 0.00
Smyr. 1 0.68
Poly.-
Phili. 0 0.00
MPoly. 4 1.19
Did. 1 0.36
Barn. 5 0.60
Shep. 21 0.63
Diog. 1 0.30
Pap. 8 2.70
If the context of these places is considered, the tendency seems to
be to place the DE KAI at the front of the clause, to be wanting to
show continuity with the larger context, and yet also to show a
slight shift to a new thought (not always a clear shift, so be
careful not to push this too far). Perhaps this is the emphasis that
Grosvenor mentions. As for the matter of how to treat the phrase,
the DE KAI go together as a unit, and since hHDH DE KAI is only found
as a unit here in the NT and AF and only a couple of times in the LXX
(3 Mac 3:10 and 4 Mac 3:19), I would tend to tag it on as part of the
same unit, but others may have a better insight into the three words
together. Obviously it is not a common unit, but ETI DE KAI is a
more common unit and is normally seen as a single unit, thus my view
that here in Lk 3:9 hHDH DE KAI is likely a unit and somewhat similar
to ETI DE KAI in the sense of a unit.
paz,
Bill Warren
Director of the Center for New Testament Textual Studies
Landrum P. Leavell, II, Professor of New Testament and Greek
New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary
On Jun 8, 2007, at 7:19 AM, Jonathan Robie wrote:
> Luke 3:9 hHDE **DE KAI**
> hH AXINH PROS THN hRIZAN TWN DENDRWN KEITAI
>
> Luke 3:9 ἤδη **δὲ καὶ**
> ἡ ἀξίνη πρὸς τὴν ῥίζαν τῶν
> δένδρων κεῖται
>
> Grosvenor tells me that DE KAI lends emphasis, and that this is
> typical
> of Luke. Should I treat hHDE DE KAI as a unit, as shown in my
> indenting
> above? In other words, does DE KAI simply lend emphasis, in an
> untranslatable way, to "already", or what kind of emphasis does it
> give?
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
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