[B-Greek] Luke 5:1 EN TWi + infinitive
Elizabeth Kline
kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Tue Jun 26 23:05:45 EDT 2007
The use of KAI to introduce final/consecutive clauses is treated in
the standard grammars. The most lucid is Zerwick:1963 #455gamma who
cites Lk5:1 as an example. It really doesn't matter if we accept the
suggestion that this reflects the usage of the Hebrew VAV (WAW) or a
pattern borrowed from the LXX. If you want to think of this as
generic Hellenistic Greek, showing examples from papyri, that is fine.
01 EGENETO DE EN TWi
TON OCLON EPIKEISQAI AUTWi
KAI AKOUEIN TON LOGON TOU QEOU
KAI AUTOS HN ESTWS PARA THN LIMNHN GENNHSARET,
KAI EIDEN DUO PLOIA ESTWTA PARA THN LIMNHN
OI DE ALIEIS AP AUTWN APOBANTES
EPLUNON TA DIKTUA
A verb of motion EPIKEISQAI is often followed by a purpose/results
clause. This semantic progression is common enough that it creates
what might be called a constraint on how we read KAI AKOUEIN TON
LOGON TOU QEOU. In other words we expect a volitial action to be goal
driven and when the KAI AKOUEIN TON LOGON TOU QEOU follows it answers
this expectation.
Elizabeth Kline
On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:43 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
> Admittedly an inf can be used to express purpose, but would we then
> expect a καὶ [KAI] to separate it from the preceding inf -- AND
> would it even be an inf? The inf used to express purpose seems
> normally to depend upon a finite verb
>
>
> 6. Infinitive as Final Dative. Giles calls attention to the
> infinitive as a final dative. This was the original use of the
> dative in –αι [-AI], the expression of purpose. So
> ἤλθομεν προσκυνῆσαι αὐτῷ [HLQOMEN
> PROSKUNHSAI AUTWi] (Mt. 2:2). Here we have the dative form and the
> dative of purpose. Cf. the old English “for to worship.” This
> dative form continued, however, when the case of the infinitive was
> no longer dative.
>
> Robertson, A. (1919; 2006). A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in
> the Light of Historical Research (541). Logos.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
> Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
> To: B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:07:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Luke 5:1 EN TWi + infinitive
>
> The second infinitive clause KAI AKOUEIN TON LOGON TOU QEOU could be
> understood as a statement of purpose and not a second argument for EN
> TWi.
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
> On Jun 26, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Jonathan Robie wrote:
>
> >
> > Luke 5:
> >
> > 01 Ἐγένετο δὲ ἐν τῷ
> > τὸν ὄχλον ἐπικεῖσθαι αὐτῷ
> > καὶ ἀκούειν τὸν λόγον τοῦ θεοῦ
> > καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν ἑστὼς παρὰ τὴν
> > λίμνην Γεννησαρέτ,
> > 02 καὶ εἶδεν δύο πλοῖα ἑστῶτα παρὰ
> > τὴν λίμνην
> > οἱ δὲ ἁλιεῖς ἀπ αὐτῶν ἀποβάντες
> > ἔπλυνον τὰ δίκτυα.
> >
> > 01 EGENETO DE EN TWi
> > TON OCLON EPIKEISQAI AUTWi
> > KAI AKOUEIN TON LOGON TOU QEOU
> > KAI AUTOS HN ESTWS PARA THN LIMNHN GENNHSARET,
> > KAI EIDEN DUO PLOIA ESTWTA PARA THN LIMNHN
> > OI DE ALIEIS AP AUTWN APOBANTES
> > EPLUNON TA DIKTUA
> >
> > I assume that both OCLON and AKOUEIN are functioning to indicate
> > contemporaneous time as discussed in Funk:
> >
> >> 836.1 The articular infinitive appears with prepositions in
> temporal
> >> clauses as follows: ἐν τῷ (EN TWi) and the infinitive are
> >> used of
> >> contemporaneous time, μετὰ τό (META TO) for subsequent
> >> time, πρὸ τοῦ
> >> (PRO TOU) for previous time, ἕως τοῦ (hEWS TOU) of future
> >> time, all in
> >> relation to the time of the main verb. Bl-D §§402-404.
> >>
> >
> > Funk's examples show only one verb acting as an object of EN TWi
> this
> > way, but I assume that multiple infinitives can serve as objects to
> > one
> > EN TWi, and that this is an example that functions that way? Here
> are
> > the notes I wrote on this - are they correct?
> >
> > ἐν τῷ (EN TWi) + infinitive used for contemporaneous time,
> > Funk 836.1,
> > Bl-D §§402-404. The two infinitives ἐπικεῖσθαι
> > (EPIKEISQAI) and ἀκούειν
> > (AKOUEIN) are
> > objects of the ἐν τῷ (EN TWi) construction, the periphrastic
> > imperfect
> > ἦν ἑστὼς (HN hESTWS) contains the main verb - "while they
> > were crowding
> > around
> > him and listening to the word of God, he was standing by the sea
> > of Galilee
>
>
>
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