[B-Greek] Re. PLHQW + EN + dative
Paul F. Evans
PastorPaul1957 at bellsouth.net
Fri Nov 9 11:49:04 EST 2007
Carl,
Thank you for correcting my transliteration!
dat., KRHNHN ... hUDATI PEPLHQUIAN
This is the very nuance I am trying to verify... If the spring is filled by
means of water, at least conceptually it is filled with water. Is that a
genuine semantic nuance of the dative in these kinds of cases? That is why
I am looking for other instances outside of the NT as well as in the NT.
Eph 5:18 has a similar construction... MH MEQUSKEQE OINWi EN Wi...
Conceptually at least it takes imbibing the wine to produce drunkenness,
just as the spring is filled by and with the water. I wonder if in such
cases the dative has that semantic force.
My problem is trying to find ways to investigate the matter... I am having
difficulty using the Perseus site, so that is why I came to the list. I
thought that there may be someone who has some insight into this sort of
nuanced construction.
I know that I now run the risk of wearing out the list on this discussion,
but I am genuinely interested in a grammatical opinion on the semantic force
of the dative in connection with content/means when liquids are involved.
Pastor Paul
Wilmington First Pentecostal Holiness Church
http://www.wilmingtonfirst.org
PastorPaul1957 at bellsouth.net
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