[B-Greek] Fwd: RE: hUPEKAHSAN
Albert Pietersma
albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Tue Nov 27 12:09:29 EST 2007
Since both Ziegler (1954) and Munnich (1999) accept hUPEKAHSAN
(DanLXX 3:94) as the original text (on the strength of Pap. 967), a
translation (McLay) can be found on the NETS site at http://
ccat.sas.upenn.edu/nets/edition/
Al
On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:48 AM, George F Somsel wrote:
> Apparently John replied to me personally with the correct citation
> of the passage so my reply went to him rather than to the list. I
> don't believe he would object to it's being posted so I am
> forwarding my reply to him to the list.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ________
>
> George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:58:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [B-Greek] hUPEKAHSAN
> To: Litteral John <John.Litteral at Ashland.kyschools.us>
>
> Since today I am having a problem with my e-mail program and am
> unable to use the Beta, I won't attempt to include the native Greek
> but will limit myself to the transliteration.
>
> KAI SUNHXQHSAN hOI hUPATOI, TOPARXAI KAI ARXIPATRIWTAI KAI hOI
> FILOI TOU BASILEWS KAI EQEWROUN TOUS ANQRWPOUS EKEINOUS, hOTI OUX
> hHYATO TO PUR TOU SWMATOS AUTWN, KAI hAI TRIXES AUTWN OU KATEKAHSAN
> KAI TA SARABARA AUTWN OUK HLLOIWQHSAN, OUDE OSMH TOU PUROS HN EN
> AUTOIS
>
> My electronic edition does not have the critical apparatus so I
> am guessing that in place of KATEKAHSAN you find hUPEKAHSAN in the
> variants. This is the same form as KATEKAHSAN, namely 3 pl aor
> pass ind from hUPOKAIW which differs as to its prepositional
> prefix. LSJ lists hUPOKAIW thusly
> UPOKAIW,Att. KAW, burn by applying fire below, TINAS
> ZWNTAS D.S.20.71, cf. 19.108; burn underneath,
> OSTEA Hdt.4.61; CULA hU. TWi TRIPODI under the tripod,
> Anon.ap.Eust.1146.37; light sacrificial
> fires, cf. hUPOKLAIW.
> 2. light under, PUR Luc.Phal.1.11:—
> Pass., Arist.Mete.355a17.
> 3. hU. LEBANTA, [KAKKABHN], light a fire under it,
> Gal.13.37, 6.707.
> 4. heat a bath, PFlor.127.4 (iii a.d.), PGiss.40
> ii 19 (iii a.d.).
> II. metaph. in Pass., hU. TINOS to be inflamed by
> love for .., Parth.12.1, 23.2; to be inflamed, FLUKTAINAI -
> OMENAI Ph.2.101.
>
> Liddell, H. G., Scott, R., Jones, H. S., & McKenzie, R.
> (1996). A Greek-English lexicon. Oxford; New York: Clarendon
> Press; Oxford University Press.
>
> Obviously the "Gal." in the LSJ citation cannot be the NT book of
> Galatians since that does not have 13 chapters. It is Galenus
> though I am uncertain regarding which of his works is referenced.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> _________
>
>
>
>
> Litteral John <John.Litteral at Ashland.kyschools.us> wrote:
>
>
> George,
>
> Sorry for the typo. Verse 94 in the Gottingen and Rahlfs. Thanks!
>
> John Litteral
>
> john.litteral at ashland.kyschools.us
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: George F Somsel [mailto:gfsomsel at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:50 AM
> To: Litteral John; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] hUPEKAHSAN
>
>
>
> In my Rahlfs copy of the LXX (both Theodotion and the Old Greek)
> chapter 3 is numbered from verse 92 through 97. Also, in Hebrew
> chapter 3 only extends to verse 33 so I'm wondering what you are
> looking at. If you were to give a transliteration of the passage I
> might be able to locate your position.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________
>
> Litteral John <John.Litteral at Ashland.kyschools.us> wrote:
> In a variant in Daniel OG LXX 3:34, hUPEKAHSAN is found. I am not
> familar with this word, and I have not had any luck looking it up. Is
> it a scribal error and a word that does not exist? Thank you!
>
> John Litteral
>
> john.litteral at ashland.kyschools.us
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> george
> gfsomsel
>
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> george
> gfsomsel
>
> Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
> - Jan Hus
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> george
> gfsomsel
>
> Therefore, O faithful Christian, search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
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>
> - Jan Hus
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