[B-Greek] POLLOUS hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA Heb. 2:10
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Wed Apr 9 13:12:50 EDT 2008
On Apr 9, 2008, at 11:50 AM, Cory Taylor wrote:
> It seems to me that POLLOUS hUIOUS EIS DOXAN would go with EPREPEN
> and TON
> ARCHGON would go with AGAGONTA. It also seems like the author is
> leaving out
> a verb for poetic or oratory effect, which would have to be
> supplied. Thus,
> it would be something like, "For it was fitting to him...[to bring]
> many
> sons to glory, while leading the founder of salvation..."
>
> Just my two cents.
Let's look again at the whole text:
>>> Heb. 2:10 EPREPEN GAR AUTWi, DI' hON TA PANTA KAI DI' hOU TA PANTA,
>>> POLLOUS
>>> hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA TON ARCHGON THS SWTHRIAS AUTWN DIA
>>> PAQHMATWN
>>> TELEIWSAI
EPREPEN must construe with the dative AUTWi and the infinitive
TELEIWSAI.
The DI' hON relative clause specifies AUTWi.
TON ARCHGON THS SWTHRIAS AUTWN is the object of TELEIWSAI.
DIA PAQHMATWN qualifies TELEIWSAI
POLLOUS hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA specifies TON ARCHGON THS SWTHRIAS
AUTWN.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Eric Inman
> <eric.inman at wescorpflex.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I would say that hUIOUS would be in relation to God even if TON
>> ARCHGON
>> were
>> taken with AGAGONTA.
>>
>> Is there any reason why it can't or any other reason why TON
>> ARCHGON would
>> not be taken with AGAGONTA?
>>
>> Eric Inman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>> Kline
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:06 AM
>> To: nicky_dejong at sil.org
>> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] POLLOUS hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA Heb. 2:10
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Nicky de Jong wrote:
>>> Heb. 2:10 EPREPEN GAR AUTWi, DI' hON TA PANTA KAI DI' hOU TA PANTA,
>>> POLLOUS
>>> hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA TON ARCHGON THS SWTHRIAS AUTWN DIA
>>> PAQHMATWN
>>> TELEIWSAI.
>>>
>>> I am puzzled as to why AUTWi (God) is considered the antecedent of
>>> POLLOUS
>>> hUIOUS EIS DOXAN AGAGONTA (irregularly modifying the dative) rather
>>> than TON
>>> ARCHGON (Jesus). Any insights?
>>>
>>> Nicky de Jong
>>>
>>
>>
>> If we take TON ARCHGON with AGAGONTA, the use of hUIOUS seems to
>> raise a problem, hUIOUS in relation to whom?
>>
>> Elizabeth Kline
>>
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