[B-Greek] Greek (mostly) Readers
Ian Scott
iscott at tyndale.ca
Tue Apr 29 18:41:46 EDT 2008
Hi Nikolaos,
If you look at the opening of the page you'll notice that this
pronunciation is supposed to reconstruct Attic phonetics from the 5th
century BCE. So there's no surprise that it doesn't match modern
ecclesiastical Greek pronunciation. The question would be whether it's
an accurate reconstruction. And, for the record, the pronunciation here
is not 100% Erasmian. The Erasmian system gives different pronunciations
from those on this page for the following letters: eta, epsilon,
omicron, omega, theta, phi, khi, zeta, and several of the dipthongs. I
can't say how good this is as an historical reconstruction, but I don't
think we should write it off simply because it doesn't fit the
pronunciation practiced 2500 years after the target period. After all,
we know that Attic pronunciation in the classical era already differed
significantly from other regional sub-dialects.
Cheers,
Ian
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>>> Nikolaos Adamou <nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com> 4/29/2008 6:09 PM
>>>
With all respect,
These sounds ARE not Greek, there is NO Rhythm and Music in it.
It is 100% Erasmian, but less than 10% Greek.
If you would like to compare the acoustics, listen to Byzantine melos
and in particular how a Ειρμολογικό reading of Gospel or Epistle
readings sounds in the Orthodox church.
Χριστός Άνέστι
Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D. Associate Professor
of Business Management
BMCC / CUNY
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:40:53 -0400
> From: anball at gmail.com
> To: cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
> CC: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Greek (mostly) Readers
>
> Thanks for posting this!
>
> Here's the site I was talking about:
>
> http://www.rhapsodes.fll.vt.edu/Greek.htm
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Carl W. Conrad
> <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
> > Here's another message sent to me but evidently intended for the
whole list.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Andrew Ball" <anball at gmail.com>
> > > Date: April 29, 2008 1:03:51 PM EDT
> > > To: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Greek (mostly) Readers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At first glance, I thought that this message was about recordings
of
> > > people reading the texts. Does anyone know of sources of
readings or
> > > chantings of texts with reconstructed or modern pronunciations?
I
> > > know that there was some effort to reconstruct classical Greek
and
> > > Latin pronunciations (including tonal pronunciation of Greek)
headed
> > > by a professor in the classics department of Virginia Tech ...
> > >
> > > Peace,
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Carl W. Conrad
> > > <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Eric Sowell has blogged several times recently on matters
relevant to
> > > > Greek pedagogy and self-development. Today he has a splendid
listing
> > > > of readers for Greek (some for Latin also), including both
Koine and
> > > > Classical Greek (even the Hellenistic Classical Greek author
Lucian is
> > > > there). One of the neatest things about this listing is that
Eric has
> > > > put on display sample pages from each item in his list, so
that
> > > > prospective purchasers can better ascertain whether (as the
> > > > pharmaceutical ads pump their wares shamelessly) a particular
one "is
> > > > right for you."
> > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.archaicchristianity.com/Blog/Archives/2008/4/28/Greek_AndAFewLatin_Readers_AGallery.aspx
> > > > or: http://tinyurl.com/6lj4p5
> > > >
> > > > Carl W. Conrad
> > > > Department of Classics, Washington University (Ret)
> > > >
> > > > ---
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > =======================
> > > Andrew D. Ball
> > > 勃安
> > > deus caritas est
> > > http://wwwx.cs.unc.edu/~adball/blog/
> > > http://filebox.vt.edu/~anball1/
> > > http://www.trilug.org/
> > >
> >
> >
> > Carl W. Conrad
> > Department of Classics, Washington University (Ret)
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> =======================
> Andrew D. Ball
> 勃安
> deus caritas est
> http://wwwx.cs.unc.edu/~adball/blog/
> http://filebox.vt.edu/~anball1/
> http://www.trilug.org/
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