[B-Greek] subject in Rev 1:1

Tom Moore tom at katabiblon.com
Thu Aug 14 16:01:45 EDT 2008


If God gave the revelation for the purpose of himself showing, would it not have to be hINA + subjective (ἵνα δείξῃ)?

With an infinitive, is another option possible here other than that God gave the revelation to Jesus in order for Jesus to show? (Smyth #2008, Infinitive of Purpose)

Tom Moore

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: kgraham0938 at comcast.net
>  Subject: Re: [B-Greek] subject in Rev 1:1
>  Sent: Aug 14 '08 18:30
>  
>  Hello, but would'nt you see the KAI there linking the two clauses together?  Meaning that hO QEOS is the one who gave and the one who indicates?  And secondly, I would not see IHSOU CHRISTOU as the subject of  DEIXAI TOIS DOULOIS  because I would take the infinitive as modifying EDWKEN denoting purpose.  God gave in order to show his servant...
>  --
>  Kelton Graham
>  KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
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>  -------------- Original message --------------
>  From: Elizabeth Kline <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net>
>  
>  >
>  > On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:09 PM, kgraham0938 at comcast.net wrote:
>  >
>  > > hO QEOS is the subject because it is nominative and the angel
>  > > belongs to the Father. IHSOU CHRISTOU is genitive so it cannot be
>  > > the subject of the verb.
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > Kelton Graham
>  > > KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
>  > >
>  > > -------------- Original message --------------
>  > > From: "Beata Urbanek"
>  > >
>  > >> Dear List,
>  > >>
>  > >> Rev 1:1 says: APOKALUYIS IHSOU CRISTOU hHN EDWKEN AUTWi hO QEOS
>  > >> DEIXAI TOIS
>  > >> DOULOIS AUTOU hA DEI GENESQAI EN TACEI KAI ESHMANEN APOSTEILAS DIA
>  > >> TOU AGGELOU
>  > >> AUTOU TWi DOULWi AUTOU IWANNHi
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> My question is: what is the subject of the verb ESHMANEN? Is it hO
>  > >> QEOS because
>  > >> it is the nearest possible noun and in nominative? Or is it Jesus
>  > >> Christ because
>  > >> APOKALUYIS was given to him and he can give it to others?
>  > >> Consequently, whose
>  > >> AGGELOS is it?
>  > >>
>  > >> Beata Urbanek
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  >
>  > The subject of the verb ESHMANEN is ambiguous. The case of hO QEOS is
>  > irrelevant since KAI in KAI ESHMANEN APOSTEILAS introduces a new
>  > clause. The semantic structure seems to point to IHSOUS CRISTOS as the
>  > subject, since AUTWi in EDWKEN AUTWi hO QEOS is coreferential with
>  > IHSOU CRISTOU who is the subject of DEIXAI TOIS DOULOIS AUTOU.
>  >
>  >
>  > Elizabeth Kline
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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