[B-Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 4 09:39:04 EST 2008


What I don't see is that BDAG supports the NET assertion.  

② to draw near in a temporal sense, draw near, come near, approach (POxy 1202, 8; w. dat., Epict. 3, 10, 14; Tat. 37:1). W. indications of time (KClark, JBL 59, ’40, 367–83) the hour Mt 26:45; the day (Ezk 7:4; 12:23) Ro 13:12; Hb 10:25; the (feast) day GJs 1:2; 2:2; ὁ καιρός [hO KAIROS] (La 4:18; 1 Macc 9:10) Lk 21:8; cp. Mt 21:34; ὁ χρόνος [hO XRONOS] Ac 7:17; the Passover Lk 22:1; the end 1 Pt 4:7; the final stumbling-block B 4:3; cp. ending of Mk in the Freer ms. 8; the judgment GPt 7:25; destruction of the temple Lk 21:20; redemption vs. 28. μέχρι θανάτου ἐ. [MEXRI QANATOU E.] come close to dying Phil 2:30 (cp. Job 33:22; Sir 51:6 ἤγγισεν ἕως θανάτου [HGGISEN hEWS QANATOU]). PKatz, TZ 5, ’49, 7; ADebrunner, Mus. Helv. 11, ’54, 58f.—Esp. of the approaching Reign of God: ἤγγικεν ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρανῶν (or τοῦ θεοῦ) [HGGIKEN hH BASILEIA TWN OURANWN (or
 TOU QEOU)] Mt 3:2; 4:17; 10:7; Mk 1:15; Lk 10:9, 11


Note that the reference for the passage is Lk 10.11 rather than 12.11.  BDAG specifically cites this verse in the sense of "drawing near" or "approaching" rather than "has come."





 
george
gfsomsel 
… search for truth, hear truth, 
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth, 
defend the truth till death.
 
 - Jan Hus
_________

----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Robie <jwrobie at mindspring.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 7:03:11 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI


Luke 
12:11 
πλὴν 
τοῦτο 
γινώσκετε 
ὅτι 
ἤγγικεν 
ἡ 
βασιλεία 
τοῦ 
θεοῦ
Luke 
12:11 
PLHN 
TOUTO 
GINWSKETE 
hOTI 
HGGIKEN 
hH 
BASILEIA 
TOU 
QEOU

The 
footnote 
in 
my 
wonderful 
NET 
/ 
NA27 
tells 
me 
that 
the 
perfect 
EGGIKEN 
+ 
EPI 
means 
"has 
come" 
rather 
than 
"has 
come 
near" 
or 
"is 
at 
hand". 
It 
refers 
me 
to 
BDAG 
EGGIZW 
sense 
2, 
but 
I 
don't 
see 
enough 
there 
to 
understand 
why 
it 
takes 
that 
sense.

The 
BDAG 
seems 
to 
indicate 
that 
"is 
at 
hand" 
might 
be 
right 
for 
other 
Gospels, 
but 
"has 
come" 
is 
right 
for 
the 
Luke 
passages. 
Can 
someone 
please 
enlighten 
me?

Jonathan

---
B-Greek 
home 
page: 
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek
B-Greek 
mailing 
list
B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek







      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Be a better friend, newshound, and 
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ 



More information about the B-Greek mailing list