[B-Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Mon Feb 4 08:15:45 EST 2008


On Feb 4, 2008, at 8:02 AM, vasilis tsialas wrote:

>
> Oh sorry!
>
> That was a Greek acronym that means "and so on": Και Ούτω  
> Καθ' εξής.

Some of us use the older KTL (καὶ τὰ λοιπά KAI TA LOIPA) as  
Greek for "etc."

> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:54:43 -0500From:  
> sarah.r.madden at gmail.comTo: tsialas78 at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [B- 
> Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI
> Tsialas --
> What does "κ.ο.κ" mean? Probably others on the list know this  
> acronym, so this is offline.

No, I knew KTL but not this one.
>
> As BDAG says, εγγίζω EGGIZW means "approach, draw/come near (in  
> time or space)", not "come". "Come" is an exegetical paraphrase  
> according to the translator's theological disposition and  
> speculation, not an accurate rendering of the Greek text. There are  
> other verbs that can denote the fact of the arrival (έρχομαι,  
> φθάνω, αφικνούμαι, κ.ο.κ.).Tsialas VasileiosAthens,  
> Greece> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:03:11 -0500> From: jwrobie at mindspring.com 
> > To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: [B-Greek] HGGIKEN + EPI> >  
> Luke 12:11 πλὴν τοῦτο γινώσκετε ὅτι  
> ἤγγικεν ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ θεοῦ> Luke 12:11  
> PLHN TOUTO GINWSKETE hOTI HGGIKEN hH BASILEIA TOU QEOU> > The  
> footnote in my wonderful NET / NA27 tells me that the perfect >  
> EGGIKEN + EPI means "has come" rather than "has come near" or "is at  
> > hand". It refers me to BDAG EGGIZW sense 2, but I don't see enough  
> there > to understand why it takes that sense.> > The BDAG seems to  
> indicate that "is at hand" might be right for other > Gospels, but  
> "has come" is right for the Luke passages. Can someone > please  
> enlighten me?> > Jonathan> > ---> B-Greek home page: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek 
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)






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