[B-Greek] 1 John 3:9

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 5 06:23:44 EST 2008


If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that there is some compulsion which would prevent one from transgressing.  I would need to review the LSJ entry more fully with the examples give to determine in what sense "dare" is being used there, but my inclination, in view of the fact that all other usages in the NT as cited by BDAG seem to concentrate upon one's ability to perform some action, is to favor that usage here as well since there is nothing in particular to signal that it is being used otherwise.
 
george
gfsomsel 
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----- Original Message ----
From: Denise Parkes <deniseparkes at hotmail.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 10:16:50 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 John 3:9



1 
John 
3:9: 
PAS 
hO 
GEGENNHMENOS 
EK 
TOU 
QEOU 
hAMARTIAN 
OU 
POIEI 
hOTI 
SPERMA 
AUTOU 
EN 
AUTW 
MENEI 
KAI 
OU 
DUNATAI 
hAMARTANEIN, 
hOTI 
EK 
TOU 
QEOU 
GEGENNHTAI
 
Doesn’t 
the 
LSJ's 
definitions 
of 
DUNAMAI 
provide 
a 
third 
possibility 
to 
solve 
the 
apparent 
inconsistency 
between 
1 
John 
1:8 
and 
1 
John 
3:6 
and 
9?  
 
DUNAMAI: 
2. 
"of 
moral 
possibility, 
to 
be 
able, 
dare, 
bear 
to 
do 
a 
thing, 
mostly 
with 
neg." 
Thus:
 
1 
John 
3:9: 
Everyone 
who 
has 
been 
born 
of 
God 
does 
not 
sin, 
because 
his 
seed 
remains 
in 
him, 
and 
he 
DARE 
NOT 
sin 
because 
he 
has 
been 
born 
of 
God.
 
If 
one 
uses 
this 
definition, 
doesn’t 
the 
inconsistency 
between 
the 
three 
verses 
disappear?  
Thus:
 
If 
those 
born 
of 
God 
dare 
not 
sin 
then:  
while 
still 
able 
to 
sin 
according 
to 
1 
John 
1:18,
they 
don’t 
(intentionally) 
sin 
- 
1 
John 
3:6, 
because 
they 
cannot 
bear 
to 
- 
1 
John 
3:9.
 
Cheers,
Denise 
Parkes


 
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