[B-Greek] Construction question

Carlton Winbery winberycl at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 9 16:14:56 EST 2008


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>From: "Rob Reid" <dr.robreid at gmail.com>
>Date: February 9, 2008 11:59:57 AM EST
>To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Subject: Construction Question
>
>
>Friends, I am trying to research a specific construction for the 
>"medial genitive" or "embedded genitive":
>
>Construction: article[nominative] article[genitive] noun[genitive] 
>noun[nominative]
>
>Are any of you familiar with anything written in this regard? Or that 
>might be helpful? Thanks!
>
>--
>~Rob G. Reid
>ÉßɉÉ-ÉÕÉ"V ɥɦɫÉ-É-ÉÕV ɈÉ-É-É« É®É"ɦɫÉÕV ɻɸɫ É-É÷É-ɉɦ 
>É-ÉÕÉ" É»ÉÕÉ-É ÉÕÉ" (ÉÕÉ"É» ɮɸɫÉ-ɸɦÉÕV ÉÕÉ"ɬɈ ÉøÉŠÉŠÉÕV 
>ɸɦÉ'É÷ÉÀ)!
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>
>Of the above construction I will only say that it is certainly common 
>in older Attic, less common, I think, in Koine; I note, for instance, 
>in the opening of Plato's Republic (327a): É»ÉøÉŠ? É ?ÉÀ ÉÕ?ÉÀ 
>É ÉÕÉ« ɻɸð ? É-?ÉÀ ?¼É«É'É÷ɦðÉ÷ÉÀ ¼ÉÕÉ ¼? ?ɬÉÕÉÃɈÉÀ 
>Ɉ?ÉÀÉøÉ« ... [KALH MEN OUN MOI hH TWN EPICWRIWN POMPH EDOXEN 
>EINAI ... ]. When I was teaching Attic Greek I used to refer to this 
>common construction as "a noun sandwich." I confess, however, that I 
>never heard any other call it that.
>
>Carl W. Conrad
>Department of Classics, Washington University (Ret)
>
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Crosby and Schaeffer claim that the "possessive genitive" normally 
follows the article of the noun it modifies (p. 3). This would often 
put the article of the noun modified by the genitive construction at 
the head of the construction and the noun at the end of the 
construction. The construction often happens with other cases than 
the nominative - dat. art. - gen. art. - gen. noun - dat. noun 1 
Peter 4:13. also acc. art. - gen. art. - gen. noun - acc. noun John 
18:10.
C & S example of such a construction is TON TOU STRATHGOU ADELFON.

CARLTON WINBERY
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Carlton L. Winbery
Retired Professor of Religion
Louisiana College
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