[B-Greek] LXX question, probably for Drs. Pietersma or Buth??
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Jul 13 05:41:55 EDT 2008
There are a number of problems in the question as originally asked,
and I think that question is rather tangential to legitimate concerns
of this list, to begin with.
There was no "true Judaism" before the Synod of Jabneh/Jamnia in the
late first-century and the "defining" of orthodox Judaism by the
Pharisaic rabbis as the only sect to survive the destruction of
Jerusalem. Prior to that time there was no orthodoxy, no consensus as
to any definition of a canon of acceptable "scripture." I think the
question waives the whole question of the impact of the destruction of
Jerusalem and the Temple as a cataclysmic event. But these questions
are really tangential to Biblical Greek language or Biblical Greek text.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
On Jul 13, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Mitch Larramore wrote:
> Mark:
>
> Your observations may help me clarify some points I tried to make in
> my first post. I think the point this guy was making is that
> orthodox Jewish religious leaders/rabbis were the ones who rejected
> the Christian's LXX. Many Jews could read Hebrew, but surely this
> would not be true of the religious rabbis.
>
> The apocryphal 4 Maccabees is by an unknown author so this is
> eliminated from consideration.
>
> Philo was too supportive of Christian doctrines to be considered a
> Jewish rabbi who rejected the Christians. And he shows no awareness
> of knowing Hebrew.
>
> The 'betrayer' of the Jewish people Josephus is hardly a model Jew,
> and of course Paul is a Christian.
>
> I'm really interested in documentation of first century Rabbinic
> teachers who quite often quoted from the LXX. I am assuming this is
> quite common but I'm not sure. In other words, I would like to see a
> few specific names and quotes within your 'few hundred thousand
> others."
>
> By "true" Jew I understood this teacher to be referring to anti-
> Christian, Rabbinic teachers. And a rabbi would, I presume, know
> Hebrew and Aramaic as well as he knew Greek.
>
>
> Mitch Larramore
> Sugar Land, Texas
>
>
> --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] LXX question, probably for Drs. Pietersma or
>> Buth??
>> To: "B Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>, mitchlarramore at yahoo.com
>> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 11:16 PM
>> No true first century Jew would quote the LXX over the
>> Hebrew except for
>> Philo and Josephus and the guy who wrote 4 Maccabees and a
>> few
>> hundred thousand others including Paul of Tarsus who in my
>> opinion
>> is the truest Jew of all....
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