[B-Greek] bilingualism/'dead' languages (Was Re: Translating (Participles)
Joseph Weaks
j.weaks at tcu.edu
Mon Nov 17 17:57:21 EST 2008
Those are good finds. I've have been interested in this thread.
I am wondering to what extent we are recognizing the difference
between written and oral bilingualism. There are languages I can read
but not converse at all, or minimally.
Our notion of Bilingual here, then, is precluding written literacy,
right, since we're talking about someone natively speaking two
languages.
However, for these dead languages, we talk mostly about written
grammar, not oral grammar. Thus lies a difficulty I see.
Rev. Joseph A. Weaks
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On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Ann Nyland wrote:
>>> I wrote to Charlotte Hoffman ... and she is unaware of anything
>>> written
>>> about bilingualism
>>> that involves a dead language.
> Goodness me!
> See the below, none recent and thus surely harder to overlook: this
> work on
> bilingualism in first century Palestine (don't be misled by the
> title),
> G.H.R. Horsley, "The Fiction of Jewish Greek" in New Documents
> Illustrating
> Early Christianity, Vol. v. Macquarie, Sydney, 1989.
> H. Solin, ANRW 11.29.2 (1983) 587-789.
> For bilingualism; Syriac, Coptic, Punic and Celtic in the Roman
> world, see
> R. MacMullen, AJP 87 (1966) 1-17
> And for 'dead" languages unrelated to 1st c Palestine, see N.C.
> Dorian,
> Language Death: The Life Cycle of a Scottish Gaelic Dialect,
> Philadelphia,
> 1981.
> Also, J. Whatmough, the Dialect of Ancient Gaul, Cambridge (mass.)
> 1970.
> For Greek and Nubian bilingualism, see J.H. Plumley (ed) Nubian
> Studies.
> Proceedings of the Symposium for Nubian Studies, Cambridge, 1978
> [Warminster, 1982), 103-7.
> For indigenous languages in Roman Africa, ( and for Aramaic, Syriac
> and
> Greek in Roman Syria ) see F. Millar, JRS 58 (1968) 126-34
> For bilingualism in Ptolemaic Egypt see W. Peremans's works, inc.
> "Sur le
> bilinguisme dans l"egypte des Lagides' in L. Quaegebear (ed) Studia P.
> Naster oblata, 11. Orientalia Antiqua (Orientalia Lovaniensia
> Analecta 13;
> Leuven 1982, 143-54.
> There are others, but I can only type slowly with 2 fingers.
> Ann Nyland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John McChesney-Young" <panis at pacbell.net>
> To: <B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Translating (Participles)
>
>
>> John Wilking wrote in part:
>>
>>> I wrote to Charlotte Hoffman ... and she is unaware of anything
>>> written
>>> about bilingualism
>>> that involves a dead language. ...
>>
>> Perhaps of use would be this very interesting collection of essays
>> from
>> 2002:
>>
>> Bilingualism in Ancient Society
>> Language Contact and the Written Word
>>
>> Edited by J.N. Adams, M. Janse, and S. Swain
>>
>> http://www.oup.com/uk/catalogue/?ci=9780199245062
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Adams' _Bilingualism and the Latin Language_, published the following
>> year, has recently been reissued in paperback too:
>>
>> http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521731515
>>
>> John
>>
>> ***
>>
>> John McChesney-Young ~ jmccyoung at gmail dot com ~ Berkeley,
>> California
>> http://jmccyoung.blogspot.com
>
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