[B-Greek] A bit of help, please

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Tue Oct 14 12:34:30 EDT 2008


On Oct 14, 2008, at 8:32 AM, James Ernest wrote:

> George, you can find the Diamerismos as a section of the Chronicon of
> Hippolytus of Rome--from a quick glance, it appears to be applying the
> Genesis table of nations to the contemporary world? (The descendents  
> of
> Japheth include the Greeks, the Latins, etc.)
>
> I don't know what the best place is to look up all the topographical  
> names,
> and I'm not familiar with a river named Potamis, but the editor who  
> capped
> POTAMIDOS is evidently taking it as a proper name.
>
> KATA hILION: the Berlin edition of Hippolytus (as represented in  
> TLG) has
> KATA hHLION, which would be a directional indication (east).
>
> James Ernest

My guess is that the transcription doesn't adequately follow our  
citation guidelines. Just guessing (intelligently, I hope), I think  
the text in question probably reads:

ESTI DE TA ORIA AUTWN APO MHDIAS hEWS GADEIRWN TA PROS BORRAN, EUROS  
DE APO
POTAMIDOS POTAMOU hEWS MASTOUSIAS ThS KATA hHLION.

If that's right, I make it out to be something like, "Their boundaries  
are from Media to Gadira to the north, on the south from the river  
Potamis to Mastusia on the east."

> On 10/11/08, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are you referring to Euripides' "Hyppolytus"?  In a quick scan I  
>> fail to
>> find this passage.
>>
>> george
>> gfsomsel
>>
>>
>> … search for truth, hear truth,
>> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>> defend the truth till death.
>>
>>
>> - Jan Hus
>> _________
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "RobertSumner0110 at wmconnect.com" <RobertSumner0110 at wmconnect.com 
>> >
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 9:10:23 PM
>> Subject: [B-Greek] A bit of help, please
>>
>> Hello,
>> For the past few months I have been working on a text from  
>> Hippolytus in an
>> effort to "jump-start" my own study of Greek, which, unfortunately,  
>> has
>> lain
>> comatose for over a quarter of a century.  I have been satisfied  
>> with my
>> progress until I ran across the second clause of the following  
>> sentence in
>> section 83
>> of the Diamerismos:
>>
>> hESTI DE TA ORIA AUTON APO MEDIAS EOS GADEIRON TA PROS BORRAN,  
>> EUROS DE APO
>> POTAMIDOS POTAMOU EWS MASTOUSIAS TES KATA hILION.
>>
>> Can anyone identify Potamidos potamou (capitalization follows the
>> original).
>> It appears to be something of a redundancy to me.  Also, can anyone
>> identify
>> 'Ilion?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> Robert Sumner
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)






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