[B-Greek] A bit of help, please
Carl Conrad
cwconrad2 at mac.com
Tue Oct 14 12:48:49 EDT 2008
On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Carl Conrad wrote:
>
> On Oct 14, 2008, at 8:32 AM, James Ernest wrote:
>
>> George, you can find the Diamerismos as a section of the Chronicon of
>> Hippolytus of Rome--from a quick glance, it appears to be applying
>> the
>> Genesis table of nations to the contemporary world? (The descendents
>> of
>> Japheth include the Greeks, the Latins, etc.)
>>
>> I don't know what the best place is to look up all the topographical
>> names,
>> and I'm not familiar with a river named Potamis, but the editor who
>> capped
>> POTAMIDOS is evidently taking it as a proper name.
>>
>> KATA hILION: the Berlin edition of Hippolytus (as represented in
>> TLG) has
>> KATA hHLION, which would be a directional indication (east).
>>
>> James Ernest
>
> My guess is that the transcription doesn't adequately follow our
> citation guidelines. Just guessing (intelligently, I hope), I think
> the text in question probably reads:
>
> ESTI DE TA ORIA AUTWN APO MHDIAS hEWS GADEIRWN TA PROS BORRAN, EUROS
> DE APO
> POTAMIDOS POTAMOU hEWS MASTOUSIAS ThS KATA hHLION.
That should certainly be hORIA, "boundaries."
> If that's right, I make it out to be something like, "Their boundaries
> are from Media to Gadira to the north, on the south from the river
> Potamis to Mastusia on the east."
>
>> On 10/11/08, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you referring to Euripides' "Hyppolytus"? In a quick scan I
>>> fail to
>>> find this passage.
>>>
>>> george
>>> gfsomsel
>>>
>>>
>>> … search for truth, hear truth,
>>> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>>> defend the truth till death.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Jan Hus
>>> _________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "RobertSumner0110 at wmconnect.com" <RobertSumner0110 at wmconnect.com
>>>>
>>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 9:10:23 PM
>>> Subject: [B-Greek] A bit of help, please
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> For the past few months I have been working on a text from
>>> Hippolytus in an
>>> effort to "jump-start" my own study of Greek, which, unfortunately,
>>> has
>>> lain
>>> comatose for over a quarter of a century. I have been satisfied
>>> with my
>>> progress until I ran across the second clause of the following
>>> sentence in
>>> section 83
>>> of the Diamerismos:
>>>
>>> hESTI DE TA ORIA AUTON APO MEDIAS EOS GADEIRON TA PROS BORRAN,
>>> EUROS DE APO
>>> POTAMIDOS POTAMOU EWS MASTOUSIAS TES KATA hILION.
>>>
>>> Can anyone identify Potamidos potamou (capitalization follows the
>>> original).
>>> It appears to be something of a redundancy to me. Also, can anyone
>>> identify
>>> 'Ilion?
>>>
>>> Many Thanks,
>>> Robert Sumner
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> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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Carl W. Conrad
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