[B-Greek] 1COR. 11:23 APO TOU KURIOU

Elizabeth Kline kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 18 00:54:21 EDT 2008


Hello George,

On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:24 PM, George F Somsel wrote:

> You always seem to read a bit more into the position of the elements  
> in the structure of the sentence than I find convincing, but I  
> wonder if Lightfoot would satisfy you on this.
>
Actually, I am a lot less convinced about significance of clause  
initial constituents than I was several years ago. Reading Helma Dik's  
"Word Order in Greek Tragic Dialogue" Oxford 2007 has substantially  
undermined my confidence in this framework. The essential subjectivity  
of the whole approach is more evident in this recent work than her  
earlier book on Herodotus. I haven't thrown the whole thing out the  
window but I am a lot more skeptical about it.
>
> 12. οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐγώ] ‘For to go a step farther back,  
> neither did I myself receive it from man.’ The force of the  
> particle οὐδὲ is best sought for in the context. Οὐδὲ  
> ἐγὼ παρέλαβον answers to τὸ  
> εὐαγγελισθὲν ὑπʼ ἐμοῦ οὐκ ἔστιν, as  
> παρὰ ἀνθρώπου answers to κατὰ ἄνθρωπον.  
> Others explain it ‘I as little as the Twelve,’ ‘I in whom  
> perhaps it might have been expected’: but such interpretations are  
> not reflected in the context.
>
>
> St. Paul's Epistle to the Galatians. A revised text with  
> introduction, notes, and dissertations. 1874. (4th ed.) (80).  
> London: Macmillan and co.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel

I am surprised you didn't quote further down the page where Lightfoot  
says "I don't think the distinction ... between LAMBANEIN PARA KURIOU  
and LAMBANEIN APO KURIOU (1COR. 11:23), as denoting respectively  
direct and indirect communication, can be insisted upon."

Thank you,


Elizabeth Kline







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