[B-Greek] Rom 8:10 TO DE PNEUMA ZWH

Nikolaos Adamou nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 21 02:17:57 EDT 2008


ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 8:10 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
εἰ δὲ Χριστὸς ἐν ὑμῖν, τὸ μὲν σῶμα νεκρὸν δι’ ἁμαρτίαν, τὸ δὲ πνεῦμα ζωὴ διὰ δικαιοσύνην.
This is the way all texts have it.  What one may gain if alters it to «πνεῦμα ζῶν διὰ δικαιοσύνην»?

1	The list you provided talks about τὸ ζῷον while the question was about ζωή.
ζῷον, ζῷον ,ζῷα, ζῴων are those that live, beasts / animals, with ῷ.
There is not word ζωόν or ζωὸν, in the NT.  There is ζῷον.  The accent IS important.

In Romans 8:10 we have ζωὴ life with ω and not ῳ.

Tom’s references are with respect of the verb ΖΩ which is related to ΖΩΗ.

Although I do not think that we should get exercises altering further bible’s text.  

Now that technology allows using Greek and not Latin characters in Greek we may avoid such confusion.  Every language has its own characters, please use them.

2	Interpretation, symbolism, capitalization are important.  Particularly if spirit means just spirit or GOD.  See two examples from Romans:

ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 16:20 Greek NT: WH / NA27 / UBS4 with Concordance 
ὁ δὲ θεὸς τῆς εἰρήνης συντρίψει τὸν Σατανᾶν ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας ὑμῶν ἐν τάχει. ἡ χάρις τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ μεθ' ὑμῶν.

ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 16:20 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
ὁ δὲ Θεὸς τῆς εἰρήνης συντρίψει τὸν σατανᾶν ὑπὸ τοὺς πόδας ὑμῶν ἐν τάχει.  Ἡ χάρις τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ μεθ’ ὑμῶν.

It may be useful to have a clear cut understanding when πνεῦμα is spirit or it is Πνεῦμα God.  Looking at different manuscripts in their modern form (lower/capital letters) there is one I am using that provides an answer.  Ii would be interest to see if there is any disagreement on this matter.

3	Modern Greek translations approved by the Ecumenical Patriarchate are accurate translations of the Original Greek Bible.  But, this was not the question.  The question was about ζωή, and if ζωόν and not ζῷον is related.  The references provided are about ζῷον.  Animals and beasts while we search about life. 

a	ΠΡΟΣ ΕΒΡΑΙΟΥΣ 13:11 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
ὧν γὰρ εἰσφέρεται ζῴων τὸ αἷμα περὶ ἁμαρτίας εἰς τὰ Ἅγια διὰ τοῦ ἀρχιερέως, τούτων τὰ σώματα κατακαίεται ἔξω τῆς παρεμβολῆς•
American King James Version
For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

b	ΠΕΤΡΟΥ Β΄ 2:12 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
οὗτοι δέ, ὡς ἄλογα ζῷα φυσικὰ γεγεννημένα εἰς ἅλωσιν καὶ φθοράν, ἐν οἷς ἀγνοοῦσι βλασφημοῦντες, ἐν τῇ φθορᾷ αὐτῶν καταφθαρήσονται,
King James Bible
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

c	ΙΟΥΔΑ 1:10 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
οὗτοι δὲ ὅσα μὲν οὐκ οἴδασι βλασφημοῦσιν, ὅσα δὲ φυσικῶς ὡς τὰ ἄλογα ζῷα ἐπίστανται, ἐν τούτοις φθείρονται.
King James Bible
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

d	ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 4:6 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
καὶ ἐνώπιον τοῦ θρόνου ὡς θάλασσα ὑαλίνη, ὁμοία κρυστάλλῳ• καὶ ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ θρόνου καὶ κύκλῳ τοῦ θρόνου τέσσαρα ζῷα γέμοντα ὀφθαλμῶν ἔμπροσθεν καὶ ὄπισθεν•
King James Bible
And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

e	ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 5:6 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
Καὶ εἶδον ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ θρόνου καὶ τῶν τεσσάρων ζῴων καὶ ἐν μέσῳ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων ἀρνίον ἑστηκὸς ὡς ἐσφαγμένον, ἔχον κέρατα ἑπτὰ καὶ ὀφθαλμοὺς ἑπτά, ἃ εἰσι τὰ ἑπτὰ πνεύματα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἀποστελλόμενα εἰς πᾶσαν τὴν γῆν.
King James Bible
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

f	ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΙΣ ΙΩΑΝΝΟΥ 5:8 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Church
καὶ ὅτε ἔλαβε τὸ βιβλίον, τὰ τέσσαρα ζῷα καὶ οἱ εἴκοσι τέσσαρες πρεσβύτεροι ἔπεσαν ἐνώπιον τοῦ ἀρνίου, ἔχοντες ἕκαστος κιθάραν καὶ φιάλας χρυσᾶς γεμούσας θυμιαμάτων, αἵ εἰσιν αἱ προσευχαὶ τῶν ἁγίων•
King James Bible
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

g	Genesis 1:21 Greek OT: Septuagint with Diacritics
καὶ ἐποίησεν ὁ θεὸς τὰ κήτη τὰ μεγάλα καὶ πᾶσαν ψυχὴν ζῴων ἑρπετῶν ἃ ἐξήγαγεν τὰ ὕδατα κατὰ γένη αὐτῶν καὶ πᾶν πετεινὸν πτερωτὸν κατὰ γένος καὶ εἶδεν ὁ θεὸς ὅτι καλά

h	Job 38:14 Greek OT: Septuagint with Diacritics
ἦ σὺ λαβὼν γῆν πηλὸν ἔπλασας ζῷον καὶ λαλητὸν αὐτὸν ἔθου ἐπὶ γῆς

i	Ezekiel 1:5 Greek OT: Septuagint with Diacritics
καὶ ἐν τῷ μέσῳ ὡς ὁμοίωμα τεσσάρων ζῴων καὶ αὕτη ἡ ὅρασις αὐτῶν ὁμοίωμα ἀνθρώπου ἐπ' αὐτοῖς


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