[B-Greek] Further Study
Randall Buth
randallbuth at gmail.com
Tue Apr 7 15:43:40 EDT 2009
why are you looking for 'native speakers'? Isn't it possible to learn a
language with second language users? language learning and use is a
spiraling affair.
Randall Buth
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Charles Johnson <cpj5117 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I see what you're getting at. It makes sense. The ideal would be to
> participate in a community of native Koine-Greek speakers, where I could
> constantly be exposed to Koine Greek and learn and grow through the effort
> of composing my own thoughts in Koine. However, there is no such community.
> Unless I have constant recourse to native speakers, my own compositions will
> be horrendously Anglicized and without correction. Even when I do get an ok
> Greek composition, the telltale signs of an English speaker (sub-verb-obj;
> adj before noun) are still all too visible. Is there a way through this
> impasse?
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> you've just taken the first step. knowing that there is somewhere to go is
>> step one.
>> step two is tricky. language learning seems to take place at right angles
>> to what
>> some might expect. a clue: if you had done 27 units of German would you be
>> able
>> to express a few thoughts? would you have more of an idea about how to go
>> about
>> it? the biggest paradox of all is that you learn a language by using a
>> language, but
>> the learner always asks how one can use what they don't know.
>> Randall Buth
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Charles Johnson <cpj5117 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Terry, thank you for the bibliography. When I say I can read, I mean that
>>> I can without too much difficulty take Greek and make English out of it.
>>> There are many times, though, when I do not comprehend the "why" behind the
>>> "what." I cannot always explain why a particular voice, tense, or mood was
>>> chosen, or why a certain word ordering. In fact, my classes focused very
>>> little on word order.
>>>
>>> Dr. Buth, I tried. It didn't go so well. I have done very limited
>>> composition (especially oral). I also have no background in Classical Greek,
>>> a detriment I'm sure. It was a useful exercise in showing me I have a long
>>> way to go. It strikes me, though, that I have to improve my skill at
>>> understanding what's really going on in the Greek language before I can
>>> replicate it myself. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> >I am looking for recommendations for further study
>>>> resources/programs/readings. I am a seminarian who has completed about
>>>> 27
>>>> credit hours of Biblical Greek. I am comfortable reading in almost all
>>>> of
>>>> the NT (Hebrews is still hard) and have a grammatical understanding at
>>>> about
>>>> the level of Wallace's *Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics*. I am
>>>> particularly
>>>> interested in resources that will help me apprehend the grammar more
>>>> precisely.
>>>> Thanks for all the wisdom,
>>>> Charlie Johnson>
>>>>
>>>> It is important to discovrer what one doesn't know so that it gets
>>>> filled in.
>>>> Try speaking your next three thoughts to yourself in Koine Greek, and
>>>> see
>>>> if you don't discover something.
>>>> Randall Buth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Randall Buth, PhD
>>>> www.biblicalulpan.org
>>>> randallbuth at gmail.com
>>>> Biblical Language Center
>>>> Learn Easily - Progress Further - Remember for Life
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Randall Buth, PhD
>> www.biblicalulpan.org
>> randallbuth at gmail.com
>> Biblical Language Center
>> Learn Easily - Progress Further - Remember for Life
>>
>>
>
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Randall Buth, PhD
www.biblicalulpan.org
randallbuth at gmail.com
Biblical Language Center
Learn Easily - Progress Further - Remember for Life
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