[B-Greek] hARPAX Mt 7:15
Tom Moore
tom at katabiblon.com
Wed Apr 22 20:22:03 EDT 2009
Thanks! This clears up a bit confusion of mine.
I haven't understood what BDAG means when it lists only a single form for an adjective (which is rare), such hARPAX -AGOS. I take it that the single form is intended to apply to fem. mas. *and* neu.; and that this would also be true of AUTOCEIR -IROS, that AUTOCEIR is fem. mas. and neu. The only other case of this in BDAG that I'm aware of is TRACWNITIS -IDOS; so I assume also for this, the neu. would be TRACWNITIS (and not, say, TRACWNITI).
Perseus, though, parses both hARPAX and AUTOCEIR as nouns.
Regards,
Tom
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] hARPAX Mt 7:15
> Sent: Apr 22 '09 23:22
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> On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Tom Moore wrote:
>
> > Is ἅρπαξ -αγος (hARPAX -AGOS) a noun or an adjective? BDAG
> > says adjective. LSJ seems to indicate a noun. While there are lots
> > of nouns with stems in -K, -G, -C, none of which are neuter, this is
> > the only adjective I can find with a palatal stem.
> >
> > If it is an adjective, what would be its neuter? If its a noun, how
> > do we understand Matthew 7:15, where it certainly seems adjectival?
> >
> > Προσέχετε ἀπὸ τῶν ψευδοπροφητῶν,
> > οἵτινες ἔρχονται πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐν
> > ἐνδύμασιν προβάτων, ἔσωθεν δέ
> > εἰσιν λύκοι ἅρπαγες.
> > PROSECETE APO TWN YEUDOPROFHTWN, hOITINES ERCONTAI PROS hUMAS EN
> > ENDUMASIN PROBATWN, ESWQEN DE EISIN LUKOI hARPAGES. [Matthew 7:15]
>
> What LSJ actually says is:
>
> ἅρπαξ, ᾰγος, ὁ, ἡ, (ἁρπάζω)
> robbing, rapacious, Ar.Eq.137, v.l. inFr. 628, X.Mem.3.1.6; λύκοι
> Lyc.1309 (v.l. Ἄτρακας): also c. Subst. neut., ἅρπαγι
> χείλει AP9.272 (Bianor): Sup. ἁρπαγίστατος Pl.Com.
> 57.
> mostly as Subst.,
> ἅρπαξ, ἡ, rapine, Hes.Op.356.
> ἅρπαξ, ὁ, robber, peculator, τῶν δημοσίων Ar.Nu.
> 351; ὁ μὲν κλέπτης ὁ δ' ἅ. Myrtil.4; πάντες
> εἰσὶν ἅρπαγες (sc. οἱ Ὠρώπιοι) Xeno1.
> species of wolf, Opp.C.3.304.
> grappling-iron, used in sea-fights, App.BC5.118, Moschio ap.Ath.
> 5.208d; flesh-hook, J.AJ8.3.7.
>
> and, as I read the BDAG entry, it too displays both substantive and
> adjectival usage.
> The neuter, like the masculine and feminine, is hARPAX; it's seen in
> the citation from the Greek Anthology noted above hARPAGI CEILEI.
>
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>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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