[B-Greek] Erasmian Pronunciation
James Ernest
jdernest at alum.bu.edu
Wed Dec 16 22:43:11 EST 2009
I don't want to seem lazy, Scott, but I don't mind actually *being* lazy.
Could you indicate where in this 168-page Latin thesis on Erasmus's ideas
about education his instructions for pronouncing Greek are quoted?
James Ernest
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com> wrote:
> CWC note: The following message from Scott Kennedy (whose e-address I can't
> even recover from the original message) may have been sent to the wrong
> address for posting and so ending up in "B-Greek Bounces." I think it was
> intended for the list and so have retrieved it to post to the list.
> ==========
>
> For those of you with knowledge of Latin in a quest to learn more about
> Erasmus's pronunciation system, why not read the original text? Gallica has
> the original text online at
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k55026175.r=Erasmus.langEN
>
>
> Best,
> Scott Kennedy
>
> > From: stancu at mail.dnttm.ro
> > To: JErnest at BakerPublishingGroup.com; B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:41:17 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [B-Greek] "Erasmian?" really? WAS: Another Audio Greek New
> Testament, free on the Internet
> >
> > Did Erasmus treat the accentuation system in his famous work? My
> > understanding is that he dealt exclusively with the way certain letters
> were
> > to be pronounced.
> >
> > As for accents, there are some (myself included) who believe that "the
> > position of ancient Greek accent is largely the same as that of modern
> > Greek" (Probert P., Ancient Greek Accentuation, Oxford University Press,
> > 2006, p. 26) and that "the Alexandrian system of accentuation is real"
> (p.
> > 27). Why then go for "the third option", or even for a second one? I
> believe
> > the effort involved in learning ancient Greek is the same, whether one
> > complies with the system demonstrated intrinsically by the accentuation
> > system, or not - the other difficulties of the language are comparatively
> > much greater. In a Spanish class, would you have any reason to pronounce,
> > for instance, "despértar" instead of "despertár", or "caloriféro" instead
> of
> > "calorífero"? Why not the same with Ancient Greek, since in both
> languages
> > graphic accents are available?
> >
> > Vasile Stancu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of James Ernest
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:44 PM
> > To: B-Greek
> > Subject: [B-Greek] "Erasmian?" really? WAS: Another Audio Greek New
> > Testament, free on the Internet
> >
> > The third option, evidently, is not to have a system at all--i.e., ignore
> > the accents entirely and emphasize syllables randomly
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > James D. Ernest, PhD, Editor
> > Baker Academic & Brazos Press
> > jernest at BakerPublishingGroup.com / http://www.BakerPublishingGroup.com
> > ------------------------------
> Carl W. Conrad
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