[B-Greek] Rev 22:15

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 24 20:43:32 EST 2009


14Μακάριοι οἱ πλύνοντες τὰς στολὰς αὐτῶν, ἵνα ἔσται ἡ ἐξουσία αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τὸ ξύλον τῆς ζωῆς καὶ τοῖς πυλῶσιν εἰσέλθωσιν εἰς τὴν πόλιν. 15ἔξω οἱ κύνες καὶ οἱ φάρμακοι καὶ οἱ πόρνοι καὶ οἱ φονεῖς καὶ οἱ εἰδωλολάτραι καὶ πᾶς φιλῶν καὶ ποιῶν ψεῦδος.
14 MAKARIOI hOI PLUNONTES TAS STOLAS AUTWN hINA ESTAI hH ECOUSIA AUTWN EPI TO CULON THS ZWHS KAI TOIS PULWSIN EISELQWSIN EIN THN POLIN.  15 ECW hOI KUNES KAI hOI FARMAKOI KAI hOI PRONOI KAI hOI FONEIS KAI hOI EIDWLOTATRAI KAI PAS FILWN YEUDOS.
 
I have included the preceding verse as well since I think it is significant for the understanding of v 15.  
 
It is those who have cleansed their robes (which is a metonymy for their persons) who are authorized to ENTER the city which is the church of the Old and New Testaments.  It is those who fall into the categories of v 15 who are to be excluded from the church.  I see no indication that they were ever allowed to enter then expelled.
 george
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From: Pere Porta <pporta7 at gmail.com>
To: James Spinti <JSpinti at eisenbrauns.com>
Cc: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <CLASSICS-L at lsv.uky.edu>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, December 24, 2009 11:41:17 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rev 22:15

Hi, friends.
Concerning Rev 22:15 I whish to put a question.
The verse is often translated and commented as an "Expulsion Decree". I even
saw an exclamation mark (!) put at the end of the verse to show that "dogs,
sorcerers, immoral persons, murderers, idolaters and everyone who loves and
practices lying" are commanded to leave the city and so are expelled by
someone from it...
My question is: Is this a legitimate translation and understanding of this
verse?
If all those are expelled from the town... this means they are within the
town and someone causes them to leave...
But, is it logical to assume, think or say that dogs, sorcerers and so on...
are IN the town?
Can this verse be understood as an Imperative clause?
Should it not be rather understood and translated as an Indicative clause,
showing that this people kind simply remain out of the town, are excluded
from it and the town doors are forever closed to them?

Do you feel I'm right? Is there a real basis to understand the clause as an
Imperative one?

Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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