[B-Greek] Rev 22:15
Pere Porta
pporta7 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 28 01:56:12 EST 2009
George and Oun,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your kindness!
Pere Porta
(Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
> 14 Μακάριοι οἱ πλύνοντες τὰς στολὰς αὐτῶν, ἵνα ἔσται ἡ ἐξουσία αὐτῶν ἐπὶ
> τὸ ξύλον τῆς ζωῆς καὶ τοῖς πυλῶσιν εἰσέλθωσιν εἰς τὴν πόλιν. *15* ἔξω οἱ
> κύνες καὶ οἱ φάρμακοι καὶ οἱ πόρνοι καὶ οἱ φονεῖς καὶ οἱ εἰδωλολάτραι καὶ
> πᾶς φιλῶν καὶ ποιῶν ψεῦδος.
>
> 14 MAKARIOI hOI PLUNONTES TAS STOLAS AUTWN hINA ESTAI hH ECOUSIA AUTWN EPI
> TO CULON THS ZWHS KAI TOIS PULWSIN EISELQWSIN EIN THN POLIN. 15 ECW hOI
> KUNES KAI hOI FARMAKOI KAI hOI PRONOI KAI hOI FONEIS KAI hOI EIDWLOTATRAI
> KAI PAS FILWN YEUDOS.
>
>
>
> I have included the preceding verse as well since I think it is significant
> for the understanding of v 15.
>
>
>
> It is those who have cleansed their robes (which is a metonymy for their
> persons) who are authorized to ENTER the city which is the church of the Old
> and New Testaments. It is those who fall into the categories of v 15 who
> are to be excluded from the church. I see no indication that they were ever
> allowed to enter then expelled.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
>
> - Jan Hus
> _________
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>
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> *From:* Pere Porta <pporta7 at gmail.com>
> *To:* James Spinti <JSpinti at eisenbrauns.com>
> *Cc:* Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <CLASSICS-L at lsv.uky.edu>;
> b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> *Sent:* Thu, December 24, 2009 11:41:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [B-Greek] Rev 22:15
>
> Hi, friends.
> Concerning Rev 22:15 I whish to put a question.
> The verse is often translated and commented as an "Expulsion Decree". I
> even
> saw an exclamation mark (!) put at the end of the verse to show that "dogs,
> sorcerers, immoral persons, murderers, idolaters and everyone who loves and
> practices lying" are commanded to leave the city and so are expelled by
> someone from it...
> My question is: Is this a legitimate translation and understanding of this
> verse?
> If all those are expelled from the town... this means they are within the
> town and someone causes them to leave...
> But, is it logical to assume, think or say that dogs, sorcerers and so
> on...
> are IN the town?
> Can this verse be understood as an Imperative clause?
> Should it not be rather understood and translated as an Indicative clause,
> showing that this people kind simply remain out of the town, are excluded
> from it and the town doors are forever closed to them?
>
> Do you feel I'm right? Is there a real basis to understand the clause as an
> Imperative one?
>
> Pere Porta
> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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Pere Porta
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(1Cor 15:32)
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