[B-Greek] Absurdity of Koine Greek accents (was "Allegory about learning Koine Greek")

Joaquim Vieira jopeunmo at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 22 10:58:57 EDT 2009


Good to hear some sense!  When will it be that we will give up our  
foolish plays on divining how people spoke when there were no means  
to record speech and decide to listen to those who have known their  
own languages for milleniums? As a Greek professor wrote tome some  
time ago,  "foolishness can be stopped".....

Fall in love with Truth, not with your hypo-thesis......

Joaquim Pedro  de Azambuja Vieira

Em 22/07/2009, às 11:21, Nikolaos Adamou escreveu:

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> I would like to offer some quotations from
> the second chapter of:
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> GRAMMAR OF THE GREEK NEW TESTAMENT IN THE LIGHT OF HISTORICAL
> RESEARCH
>
> BY
>
> A. T. ROBERTSON, M.A., D.D., LL.D., LITT.D.
>
> Professor of Interpretation of the New Testament in the
>
> Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
>
> Louisville, Ky.
>
> Digitized by Ted Hildebrandt at Gordon College,
> Wenham, MA
>
> March 2006
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> The modern Greek popular speech does
> not differ materially from the vernacular Byzantine, and thus  
> connects directly
> with the vernacular κοινή.
>
>
>  ...
>
> Hatzidakis2 even says: "The
> language generally spoken to-day in the towns differs less from the  
> common
> language of Polybius than this last differs from the language Homer."
>
>  ...
>
> Knowledge of the modern Greek4
> helps the student to escape from "the Procrustean bed of the old  
> Greek"
> which he learned as a fixed and dead thing.
>
>  ...
>
> Boltz indeed has advocated modern Greek
> as the common language for the scholars of the World since Latin is  
> so little
> spoken.8
>
>  ...
>
> But the modern Greek vernacular has
> more merit than was once conceded to it
>
>  ...
>
> "Speaking generally, we may say
> that the Greek of a well-written newspaper [the literary language]  
> is now, as a
> rule, far more classical than the Hellenistic of the N. T., but  
> decidedly less
> classical than the Greek of Plutarch."2
>
>  ...
>
> "The diction of the N. T. had a
> direct influence in moulding the Greek ordinarily used by  
> Christians in the
> succeeding centuries."4
>
>  ...
>
> After all, an educated Greek knew what
> he meant better than we do.""
> Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.       Associate Professor of Business  
> Management               BMCC / CUNY
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>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:57:37 +0300
>> From: randallbuth at gmail.com
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: [B-Greek] Absurdity of Koine Greek accents (was "Allegory  
>> about	learning Koine Greek")
>>
>> Christophe, XAIRE
>>
>> Thank you for the kind words on the KOINH pronunciation.
>>
>> I would like to add an important point for those 'listening':
>>
>> we, you and I, agree 100% that it is necessary to speak and use a
>> language if we want to internalize it, to really know it. And we
>> need to be able to speak with each other with understanding.
>> Which also implies being able to hear each other's pronunciation
>> with understanding.
>>
>> To this we might also want to add a modern Greek to a
>> discussion. It is something not always done in New Testament
>> studies. I would hope that in the future, New Testament students
>> would be able to speak with each other, whatever their background,
>> and even with modern Greeks who would take time to listen to our
>> archaic ways. Even their occasional problem with YMEIS HMEIS can
>> be overcome when speaking face to face.
>>
>> blessings
>>
>> Randall
>>
>> -- 
>> Randall Buth, PhD
>> www.biblicalulpan.org
>> randallbuth at gmail.com
>> Biblical Language Center
>> Learn Easily - Progress Further - Remember for Life
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