[B-Greek] Etymology
Sarah Madden
sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
Sun Jun 28 16:57:59 EDT 2009
Mark --
What is a "syniactical genitive" or a "syniasticalized noun"? -- and what do
they have to do with the question about "SUN" and its different forms
depending on the word to which it is attached?
Sarah ><>
Maryland - USA
sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>wrote:
> Yes, and THS EPAGGELIAS is a syniactical genitive, used after
> syniasticalized nouns.
>
> Mark L
> Φωσφορος
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> --- On Sun, 6/28/09, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Etymology
> To: "Carl Conrad" <cwconrad2 at mac.com>, "Bill Shea" <bshea at ksu.edu>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 10:36 AM
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> εἶναι τὰ ἔθνη συγκληρονόμα καὶ σύσσωμα καὶ συμμέτοχα τῆς ἐπαγγελίας ἐν
> Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ διὰ τοῦ εὐαγγελίου,
> EINAI TA EQNH SUGKLHRONOMA KAI SUSSWMA KAI SUMMETOXA THS EPAGGELIAS EN
> XRISTWi IHSOU DIA TOU EUAGGELIOU
>
> The SU prefix of which you speak is simply the combination of the word with
> the preposition σύν. We see several in instances in this passage:
> συγκληρονόμα SUGKLHRONOMA, σύσσωμα SUSSWMA and συμμέτοχα SUMMETOXA. It
> takes slightly different forms depending upon what the first letter of the
> word with which it is combined happens to be.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
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> From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
> To: Bill Shea <bshea at ksu.edu>
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> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:32:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Etymology
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> On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Bill Shea wrote:
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> From: Bill Shea <bshea at ksu.edu>
> Date: June 28, 2009 10:00:22 AM EDT
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> Subject: Etymology
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> I am interested in the etymology of the Greek prefix SU, particularly
> as it relates to Ephesians 3:6.
>
> Bill Shea
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> P.S. This is my first posting to the list. I just found it today.
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> The text in question:
> Eph. 3:6 εἶναι τὰ ἔθνη συγκληρονόμα καὶ
> σύσσωμα καὶ συμμέτοχα τῆς
> ἐπαγγελίας ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ διὰ τοῦ
> εὐαγγελίου,
> [EINAI TA EQNH SUGKLHRONOMA KAI SUSSWMA KAI SUMMETOCA THS EPAGGELIAS
> EN CRISTWi IHSOU DIA TOU EUAGGELIOU.[
>
> The prefix appearing in the three adjectives here, SUGKLHRONOMA,
> SUSSWMA, and SUMMETOCA, is actually not SU- but rather SUN, identical
> with the preposition SUN, ordinarily Englished as "with" or "together
> with" or "in company with." The -N- of SUN- as prefix regularly
> assimilates to a following consonant.
>
> I don't know that there's really anything particularly useful to say
> about the etymology of SUN-; in older Ionic and Attic dialects one
> finds it as XUN (ξυν)with a cognate adjective XUNOS [ξυνός,
> ή, όν ] that is synonymous with KOINOS [κοινός, -η, -ον] in
> sense.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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