[B-Greek] Titus 1:10-13

Harold Holmyard hholmyard3 at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 4 16:34:48 EST 2009


Roger,
> I wonder if ELEGCE in v 13 may be taken in the positive sense (perhaps 
>
> in the sense of warn)and refer back to v 5 and those who are to be 
>
> ordained as PRESBUTEROUS.
>   

HH:  ELEGCE is not a positive word here. it is due to the fact that 
Cretans are liars, evil beasts, and lazy bellies. Therefore Titus is to 
reprove them severely. The word AUTOUS in verse 13 clearly refers back 
to AUTWN in verse 12, whose reference is to the Cretans. The pronoun 
precedes its referent.


> Following the instructions for appointing the PRESBUTEROUS, Paul 
>
> begins v 10 with, EISIN GAR POLLOI ANUPOTAKTOI..., from which he 
>
> then concludes, DI hHN AITIAN..., in v 13.
>   


HH: DI hHN AITIAN in verse 13 refers back to the quotation in verse 12, 
and the fact that the Cretans are this way.


> Could we take AUTOUS in V 13 to refer back to the PRESBUTEROUS
>
> to be appointed per v 5-9? Does the greek text point, in any way, 
>
> to what Paul has in view without resorting to exegesis.
>   

HH: Of course, AUTOUS would include any elders that Titus would appoint, 
but he was to reprove the whole church.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard




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