[B-Greek] Genitives in Isa 49:6

Albert Pietersma albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Wed Nov 11 09:26:50 EST 2009


On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Kenneth Litwak wrote:

> George,
>
>  Thanks.  On #2, yes I know it's an articular infinitive that shows  
> purpose. I'm trying to decide whether it goes with what precedes it  
> or what comes after it or both (which I think unlikely on general  
> principles that each clause should have its own verb/ participle,  
> infinitive, etc.).
I can see but one way of reading the text, namely, that X made Y a  
light for nations in order that Y be salvation everywhere. What  
alternative would you suggest? Incidentally, though irrelevant to the  
question you ask, the text you cite is Rahlfs, not Ziegler. Ra  
includes EISDIAQHKHN GENOUS but Zi does not.
Al
> Whichever we decide, is that based on a "rule" or just what seems  
> reasonable?
>
> Ken
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Genitives in Isa 49:6
>> To: "Kenneth Litwak" <javajedi2 at yahoo.com>, b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:28 PM
>> καὶ εἶπέν μοι Μέγα
>> σοί ἐστιν τοῦ κληθῆναί σε
>> παῖδά μου τοῦ στῆσαι τὰς φυλὰς
>> Ιακωβ καὶ τὴν διασπορὰν τοῦ
>> Ισραηλ ἐπιστρέψαι, ἰδοὺ
>> τέθεικά σε εἰς διαθήκην γένους
>> εἰς φῶς ἐθνῶν τοῦ εἶναί σε
>> εἰς σωτηρίαν ἕως ἐσχάτου τῆς
>> γῆς.
>> KAI EIPEN MOI, "MEGA SOI ESTIN TOU KLHQHNAI SE PAIDA MOU
>> TOU STHNSAI TAS FULAS IAKWB KAI THN DIASPORAN TOU ISRAHL
>> EPISTREYAI, IDOU TEQEIKA SE EIS DIAQHKHN GENOUS EIS FWS
>> EQNWN TOU EINAI SE EIS SWTHRIAN hEWS ESXATOU THS GHS.
>>
>> 1. I would consider them genitives of direction and
>> purpose (BDF §166).
>> 2. TOU EINAI SE is a genitive of the articular infinitive
>> expressing purpose (BDF §400) as is TOU STHSAI TAS FULAS
>> in the first part of the verse.
>>  george
>> gfsomsel
>>
>>
>> … search for truth, hear truth,
>> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>> defend the truth till death.
>>
>>
>> - Jan Hus
>> _________
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Kenneth Litwak <javajedi2 at yahoo.com>
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 8:55:39 PM
>> Subject: [B-Greek] Genitives in Isa 49:6
>>
>> In Isa 49:6 we read IDOU TEQEIKA SE EIS DIAQHKHN GENOUS EIS
>> FWS EQNWN TOU EINAI SE.  I have two questions.
>> 1.  What kind of genitives are GENOUS and EQNWN?  They
>> seem in the context to be the recipients of direct objects,
>> e.g., "I have set you to be a covenant to the people, a
>> light to the nations."
>> 2.  How can we determine if TOU EINAI SE goes with the
>> words before it or the words after it?  Thanks.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
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