[B-Greek] Punctuation of John 9:3-4

Daniel, Robert S rob.daniel at hp.com
Fri Sep 25 18:49:20 EDT 2009


Thanks for the input on this, everybody. I have a much better understanding of why the period is placed where it is in the Greek editions and translations. There does seem to be a strong case for putting it there.
Rob

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From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Kline
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:05 PM
To: greek B-Greek
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Punctuation of John 9:3-4




John 9:2 καὶ ἠρώτησαν αὐτὸν οἱ μαθηταὶ  
αὐτοῦ λέγοντες· ῥαββί, τίς ἥμαρτεν,  
οὗτος ἢ οἱ γονεῖς αὐτοῦ, ἵνα τυφλὸς  
γεννηθῇ;  3 ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς· οὔτε  
οὗτος ἥμαρτεν οὔτε οἱ γονεῖς αὐτοῦ,  
ἀλλ᾿ ἵνα φανερωθῇ τὰ ἔργα τοῦ θεοῦ  
ἐν αὐτῷ.  4 ἡμᾶς δεῖ ἐργάζεσθαι τὰ  
ἔργα τοῦ πέμψαντός με ἕως ἡμέρα  
ἐστίν· ἔρχεται νὺξ ὅτε οὐδεὶς  
δύναται ἐργάζεσθαι.

JOHN 9:2 KAI HRWTHSAN AUTON hOI MAQHTAI AUTOU LEGONTES· hRABBI, TIS  
hHMARTEN, hOUTOS H hOI GONEIS AUTOU, hINA TUFLOS GENNHQHi; 3 APEKRIQH  
IHSOUS· OUTE hOUTOS hHMARTEN OUTE hOI GONEIS AUTOU, ALL᾿ hINA  
FANERWQHi TA ERGA TOU QEOU EN AUTWi. 4 hHMAS DEI ERGAZESQAI TA ERGA  
TOU PEMYANTOS ME hEWS hHMERA ESTIN· ERCETAI NUX hOTE OUDEIS DUNATAI  
ERGAZESQAI.
.
On Sep 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Sarah Madden wrote:
.
> I'm surprised no one has commented on the OUTE ... OUTE (neither ...  
> nor)
> construction, nor on the dependent INA ("in order that") phrase, nor  
> on the
> words EN AUTW ("in him"). For me, these elements indicate that all  
> of the
> words from APEKRIQH through AUTW are related to each other and  
> complete the
> same thought/sentence.

.
Sarah,

I agree. We see here a well formed structure and semantically cohesive  
sentence   OUTE ... OUTE  ... hINA ... AUTWi. The topic under  
discussion is  TIS hHMARTEN; or why is this man blind? In verse four  
there is a clear break in the thought, the question, why is this man  
blind?, is completely dropped. In verse four we see a fronted pronoun  
hHMAS  the subject of  DEI ERGAZESQAI introducing a general statement  
that has little or nothing to do with the question of the disciples  
TIS hHMARTEN;.

Elizabeth Kline




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