[B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19
Peter Streitenberger
ps2866 at bingo-ev.de
Sun Sep 27 08:10:03 EDT 2009
Thank you, Mr. Conrad and Mr. Aubrey !
Mr. Aubrey, you wrote:
>When you say "aspect" are you referring to Aspect as a grammatical category?
The term "aspect", as we use it, gives information about how an activity is seen, e.g. perfective, imperfective and so on.
The present tense represents an activity as still in progress, that means it's imperfective.
Then you wrote:
>when God was in Christ, the event was currently in progress without reference to the beginning or the end.
Mr. Conrad, you wrote:
>I think the aspect of the participle, since it's present tense, is simply "imperfective."
My problem is, how to understand KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19 as imperfective ?
Is it really a Pauline concept that reconciliaton is a continuous process ?
Thank you for further help !
Yours
Peter
www.streitenberger.com
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From: Michael Aubrey
To: Peter Streitenberger ; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19
Peter
When you say "aspect" are you referring to Aspect as a grammatical category? Or "aspect" as a perspective from which one might might view a given subject?
In terms of Aspect the grammatical category, your only options are Perfective ("Aorist"), Imperfective ("Present" and "Imperfect"), & Stative* (Perfect and Pluperfect).
*Stative as an aspectual label for the Perfect & Pluperfect is somewhat debated (only by a few). But everything else is thoroughly agreed upon.
So since this is a "Present tense," it is imperfective.
"present" indicative = +imperfective & +present time.
"present" anything else = just +imperfective
As for "aspect" as perspective for interpreting/translating the clause, I don't really know what to tell you. I don't really think those kinds of labels are terribly helpful. I would simply say that when God was in Christ, the event was currently in progress without reference to the beginning or the end. But that isn't so much an interpretive claim. It's simply what Imperfective Aspect as a grammatical category conveys.
Mike Aubrey
http://evepheso.wordpress.com
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From: Peter Streitenberger <ps2866 at bingo-ev.de>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:31:53 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19
Dear Friends,
in 2Cor 5,19a we read: "hWS hOTI QEOS HN EN CRISTW KOSMON KATALLASSWN hEAUTW"
I ask myself, what aspect the Present Participle KATALLASSWN expresses (maybe a gnomic idea) ?
Thank you for any help
Peter, Germany
www.streitenberger.com
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