[B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Sun Sep 27 09:35:43 EDT 2009


On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Peter Streitenberger wrote:

> Thank you, Mr. Conrad and Mr. Aubrey !
>
> Mr. Aubrey, you wrote:
>> When you say "aspect" are you referring to Aspect as a grammatical  
>> category?
> The term "aspect", as we use it, gives information about how an  
> activity is seen, e.g. perfective, imperfective and so on.
> The present tense represents an activity as still in progress, that  
> means it's imperfective.
>
> Then you wrote:
>> when God was in Christ, the event was currently in progress without  
>> reference to the beginning or the end.
>
> Mr. Conrad, you wrote:
>> I think the aspect of the participle, since it's present tense, is   
>> simply "imperfective."
>
> My problem is, how to understand KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19 as  
> imperfective ?
> Is it really a Pauline concept that reconciliaton is a continuous  
> process ?

I said in the first reply that HN KATALLASSWN is a periphrastic  
construction, equivalent to an imperfect indicative, KATHLLASSEN. The  
implication of the these forms is certainly that the reconciling  
activity was a process; nothing is said about any completion of the  
process, only that it was taking place EN CRISTWi.

Carl W. Conrad

> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Michael Aubrey
>  To: Peter Streitenberger ; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>  Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:16 AM
>  Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19
>
>
>  Peter
>
>  When you say "aspect" are you referring to Aspect as a grammatical  
> category? Or "aspect" as a perspective from which one might might  
> view a given subject?
>
>  In terms of Aspect the grammatical category, your only options are  
> Perfective ("Aorist"), Imperfective ("Present" and "Imperfect"), &  
> Stative* (Perfect and Pluperfect).
>
>  *Stative as an aspectual label for the Perfect & Pluperfect is  
> somewhat debated (only by a few). But everything else is thoroughly  
> agreed upon.
>
>  So since this is a "Present tense," it is imperfective.
>
>  "present" indicative = +imperfective & +present time.
>  "present" anything else = just +imperfective
>
>  As for "aspect" as perspective for interpreting/translating the  
> clause, I don't really know what to tell you. I don't really think  
> those kinds of labels are terribly helpful. I would simply say that  
> when God was in Christ, the event was currently in progress without  
> reference to the beginning or the end. But that isn't so much an  
> interpretive claim. It's simply what Imperfective Aspect as a  
> grammatical category conveys.
>
>  Mike Aubrey
>  http://evepheso.wordpress.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  From: Peter Streitenberger <ps2866 at bingo-ev.de>
>  To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>  Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:31:53 AM
>  Subject: [B-Greek] Aspect of KATALLASSWN in 2Cor 5,19
>
>  Dear Friends,
>
>  in 2Cor 5,19a we read: "hWS hOTI QEOS HN EN CRISTW KOSMON  
> KATALLASSWN hEAUTW"
>  I ask myself, what aspect the Present Participle KATALLASSWN  
> expresses (maybe a gnomic idea) ?
>
>  Thank you for any help
>
>  Peter, Germany



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