[B-Greek] Matthew 28:19
Kevin Riley
klriley at alphalink.com.au
Wed Dec 22 05:48:13 EST 2010
I think you will find the verb 'to disciple' is becoming popular outside
the realm of Bible translators.
Kevin Riley
On 22/12/2010 9:40 PM, George F Somsel wrote:
> That's pretty much what I was thinking. In the Bibletranslation group (I think
> that was the name of it) translations were sometimes referred to as "biblish."
> It reminds me of the jokes that Red Foxworthy told / tells.
>
> If you speak of "brethren" (you might get by with "brothers"), you might be
> speaking biblish.
> If you use "disciple" as a verb, you might be speaking biblish.
> george
> gfsomsel
>
>
> … search for truth, hear truth,
> learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
> defend the truth till death.
>
>
> - Jan Hus
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> From: cwconrad2<cwconrad2 at mac.com>
> To: Leonard Jayawardena<leonardj at live.com>
> Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 3:26:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Matthew 28:19
>
> The only problem being that "disciple" is not a verb in English. This is the
> sort of
> translation made by translators who want to create the target language anew in
> the image of the source language.
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (ret)
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Leonard Jayawardena<leonardj at live.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:25:57 -0500
>>> From: dony at cupandcross.com
>>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Subject: [B-Greek] Matthew 28:19
>>>
>>> Matthew 28:19 PANTA TA EQNH (acc.)
>>> make disciples of all the nations (DBY) OR disciple all the nations (YLT) ?
>>>
>>> Dony K. Donev
>> LJ:
>>
>> Mt. 28:19: POREUQENTES OUN MAQHTEUSATE PANTA TA EQNH ....
>>
>> The YLT is correct in literally rendering the above as "disciple all the
>> nations," because MAQHTEUSATE comes from the verb MAQHTEUW, literally "to
>> disciple" (if the verb is used with a transitive, active meaning, as here),
>> which is more idiomatically rendered in the other translation you cited as "make
>> disciples of."
>>
>> A Greek form literally corresponding to the English "make disciples of all the
>> nations" would be POIHSATE MAQHTAS EK TWN EQNWN PANTWN.
>>
>>
>> Leonard Jayawardena
>>
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