[B-Greek] [B-GREEK] GAL 2:2 DOKOUSIN
Oun Kwon
kwonbbl at gmail.com
Mon Feb 1 22:01:15 EST 2010
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Oun Kwon wrote:
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>>>In any case, 'men of high reputation' do seem to include the three pillars, as evident from using similar expression with OI DOKOUNTES, OI DOKOUNTES EINAI TI, OI DOKOUNTES EINAI STULOI.
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>> I will not deny the three pillars are included in those who were "reputed " to be leaders of the church, (OI DOKOUNTES) in verse 2, but I question whether they are included, in Paul's mind, with the "men of high reputation" in verse 6, as the NASB translates OI DOKOUNTES EINAI TI. It does not need be translated that way. Carl Conrad's "esteemed or respected would also work, perhaps "those esteemed to be something" or those "esteemed to be influential." What I am suggesting is that within the entire group of those "reputed" to be leaders (vs. 2), you had varying factions. I think Mark L. statement was spot on.
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>> B.Harris
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> I appreciate this very much for further clarification. NET obscures
> this fine point when it rendered v. 2 and v. 6 exactly same and
> neglecting the phrase EINAI TI in v. 6 ('the influential people' in
> v. 2 and 'those who were influential' in v. 6).
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> Oun Kwon.
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Thanks to Carl and Iver, on the different postings to get further
clarification on this text.
May I take the expression 'those respected highly to be something of
importance' 2:6 (TWN DOKOUNTWN EINAI TI) to be a way of Paul's
obliquely calling hOI DOKOUNTES STULOI?
One more question I like to clarify is vv. 2:3-4
(v.3) ἀλλ᾿ οὐδὲ Τίτος ὁ σὺν ἐμοί, ῞Ελλην ὤν, ἠναγκάσθη περιτμηθῆναι,
(v. 4) διὰ δὲ τοὺς παρεισάκτους ψευδαδέλφους,
OUDE TITOS ~~ DIA DE TOUS ~ YEUDODELOFOUS.
Does it imply that a demand was actually made on Titus to become
circumcised, though not by those respected, but by certain false
brethren?
Oun Kwon.
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