[B-Greek] Top Ten Things that B-Greekers will be giving up this year for Lent
Michael Aubrey
mga318 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 14 23:22:07 EST 2010
But I didn't say it was something that made people think they knew the language when they didn't. I said that it was a tool for helping student *pretend* they knew the language when they didn't. Those are different.
The fact is that when it comes to the goal of actually learning the language -- which is what the B-Greek list is about -- an interlinear is only going to give a student a false sense of security about their knowledge of the language. For those are trying to learn Greek, an interlinear is only a tool for pretending.
Mike
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From: Stephen Baldwin <stbaldwi at hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [B-Greek] Top Ten Things that B-Greekers will be giving up this year for Lent
With great respect to the high-calibre ones on b-greek, the thongs of whose sandals etc. etc. this is another simplistic attack; Another generalisation that does not hold water.
Again, perhaps I am missing something -- but I have never once met or heard of anyone who thought they "knew Greek" by reading an interlinear.
And even if they did, that is not the fault of the interlinear, but surely the incorrect use of the tool.
Many years ago I was curious about the word translated "devoted" in Acts 2:42 -- PROSKARTEREW. The early believers "devoted" themselves etc.
I knew scarcely a word of Greek and no grammar or anything -- but I was curious to know more about the word. The only access I had was to an interlinear and to a Vines. I found the word in the interlinear, checked it up in my Vines, and came away with a bit more knowledge about the word than I did before. I did that with several words from time to time.
Did I think that I "knew greek"? Utter nonsense. I did not know greek and I knew I did not know greek and I would never have claimed otherwise. And it may comfort the brethren here assembled to hear my confession that I know a whole lot more now than I did then and I remain light years away from "knowing greek".
So again [and I'm kicking myself that I have resurrected this subject!], I think it is simplistic to rubbish interlinears in the way that is routine on b-greek. Let us have rational debate and generalise where appropriate -- but blanket statements regarding what people may or may not claim -- well, it follows the pattern of setting up arguments that no-one [or hardly anyone] makes, and then shooting them down...which does not add much to the sum of knowledge, does it?
I stand open to correction and further learning...and look forward to the Lenten Moratorium :-)
SteveB
Stephen Baldwin
stbaldwi at hotmail.com
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> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:48:57 -0800
> From: mga318 at yahoo.com
> To: theomann at comcast.net; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
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> if you consider the ability to pretend to know Greek when you really don't a pro...then that's one.
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> Since I've been b-greeking, I was initially curious about the interlinear debate -- pros and cons...
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> Are there some pros? I don't think I've heard any yet.
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