[B-Greek] John 2:4 TI EMOI KAI SOI
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 18 18:21:26 EST 2010
Alia wrote:
<Reading this in the context of how Mary responds
it seems to me that TI EMOI
KAI SOI makes sense as "This is just between me
and you" or "What about
keeping this between me and you." a request that
Jesus's involvement should
not be publicised rather than really being a
question about the relevance of
the situation to Jesus.>
Hi, Alia,
So, you are taking TI as the indefinite, not the
interrogative pronoun? I think I read recently
that when TIS is the first word of a clause it
is usually the interrogative, but I don't know how
much of an iron clad rule this is.
I think your take on this is quite possible, and
I like it.
ERRWSO
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Alia Duffy <alia.duffy at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Alia Duffy <alia.duffy at gmail.com>
Subject: [B-Greek] John 2:4 TI EMOI KAI SOI
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 3:13 PM
I'm trying to teach myself Greek and part of that is asking questions even
though the answer may be obvious to others:
In John 2:4 : LEGEI AUTH hO IHSOUS, TI EMOI KAI SOI, GUNAI; OUPW HKEI hH
hWRO MOU.
λέγει αὐτῇ ὁ Ἰησοῦς· τί ἐμοὶ καὶ σοί, γύναι; οὔπω ἥκει ἡ ὥρα μου.
KJV: Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is
not yet come.
NASB: And Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with us? My
hour has not yet come."
Reading this in the context of how Mary responds it seems to me that TI EMOI
KAI SOI makes sense as "This is just between me and you" or "What about
keeping this between me and you." a request that Jesus's involvement should
not be publicised rather than really being a question about the relevance of
the situation to Jesus.
In the other instance where this phrase is used, Mark 5:7 and Luke 8:28, it
also seems to me to make as much sense as a request that other parties (the
old enmities of God the Father, the Serpent, and the seed of Eve) not be
dragged into a private matter questing of the relevance of the situation to
Jesus.
So can anyone give help in deepening my understanding of TIS and why it is
being translated the way it is in John 2:4?
Thanks,
Alia Duffy
San Jose, California
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