[B-Greek] Gen 3:16b LXX: t'shuqah (desire) => APOSTROFH (turning)

Nikolaos Adamou nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 4 21:29:05 EST 2010


Liddell in page 192 gives also as meaning the 
 ·  Turning round, back
 ·  A place of rescue from

Also in

http://kilbabo.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/septuagintal-saturdays-gen-315-16/


ἀποστροφή
vs. תשׁוקה

The Hebrew noun תשׁוקה,
is only used in Genesis here and in 4:7 where it describes sin ‘desiring’ you.
It seems, then that it has a negative connotation, i.e., the desire to dominate
(so, Waltke, Old Testament Theology, 266). The LXX seems to imply, not dominating
but submitting. So that, the woman’s recourse (NETS) or return is to her
husband. This implies to me that the situation of the woman’s submissive role
is a product of the fall, rather than as Waltke would interpret and the MT
would suggest that it is the woman’s desire to dominate that is the product of
the fall. I need to consider this more but this has been a long post and I
think I’ll leave it at that. Something to ponder.



Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.                   
Associate Professor of Business Management 
BMCC / CUNY 





> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:11:48 -0800
> From: papaweiss1 at yahoo.com
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [B-Greek] Gen 3:16b LXX: t'shuqah (desire) => APOSTROFH (turning)
> 
> Can anyone explain why the LXX translates the Hebrew t'shuqah (desire, urge) in Gen. 
> 3:16b as "turning" (APOSTROFH)? ("Your desire shall be toward your husband....."). I 
> cannot find that any of my Hebrew lexicons give "turning" as a meaning for t'shuqah, and 
> none of my Greek lexicons give "desire" as a meaning for APOSTROFH; in fact, one of the 
> LSJ definitions says it can mean the OPPOSITE of EPIQUMIA (desire, lust) - i.e., an 
> "aversion" (turning away). One source suggests the LXX translator misread t'shuqah as 
> t'shubah (return).
>  
> Re: Genesis 3:16:
> * Philo uses APOSTROFH in Legum Allegoriae III (220) (though translated by C.D. Yonge 
> as "desire" - maybe he went with the Hebrew reading/meaning?). 
> * The Dead Sea Scrolls don't seen to have this verse in the extant scrolls, so we can't see 
> what their Hebrew text said. 
> * An online translation of Jubilees re: this passage also seems to read "return," but I don't 
> know if that's based on the Greek or the Ethiopic text of Jubilees.
>  
> A related question: Is there a reason Jerome's Vulgate reads:
>  
> et sub viri potestate eris et ipse dominabitur tui = "and thou shalt be under thy husband's 
> power, and he shall have dominion over thee." 
>  
> (I can't read Latin, so I have to trust this literal translation I found.) 
>  
> I.e., Jerome translated either t'shuqah or APOSTROFH as "sub viri potestate" which 
> doesn't seem to be the meaning of either the Hebrew or the Greek.
> 
> - - -
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> 
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