[B-Greek] 2COR. 11:1 MOU & AFROSUNHS

Nikolaos Adamou nikolaos.adamou at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 4 23:32:52 EST 2010



Sorry the previous message had a lot of non sense formating that I do not know how they got into it,
 
2COR. 11:1 Ὄφελον ἀνείχεσθέ μου μικρὸν τῇ ἀφροσύνῃ· 
           ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀνέχεσθέ μου·.
  
2COR. 11:1 OFELON ANEICESQE MOU MIKRON TH AFROSUNH· 
           ALLA KAI ANECESQE MOU.
 
 
Elizabeth
 
 
On your first question
about the syntax:
if you take the alternative Byzantine text
makes it clear that MOY is related to the verb
since there is no MIKRON TI, but
MIKRON TH AFROSYNH (in dative and not in genitive).
MIKRON TI is meaningless
MIKRON TH AFROSYNH makes syntactical sense.
MOY is related to the verb because Paul talks about himself
and this is clear from the text.
It becomes bleary when instead of the dative article related to AFROSYNH we let it indefinite pronoun.
AFROSYNH is related to
ANEICESQE (imperfect of ANEXW) but not to ANECESQE (present).
 
 
The use of the word
AFROSYNH is important,
but does not have anything to do with its position in the sentence.
It has clear and significant theological meaning 
and Chrysostom has an entire sermon explaining it.
 
http://khazarzar.skeptik.net/pgm/PG_Migne/John%20Chrysostom_PG%2047-64/In%20illud%20Utinam%20sustineretis%20modicum.pdf
 
 
“See that not just in a simple way must go through
what is said but we must see exactly around each one of it; 
Because this is what we simply stays with the listeners 
when it is read but when we research it, 
it shows the great wisdom of Paul, 
his prudence and the incredible guardianship.”
  
(the part was put in English by using my imperfect knowledge
of English, please forgive me shortcomings)
 
Is not a rhetoric scheme
since Paul is using the word AFROSYNH /AFRWN many times in the same chapter in verses
16, 17, 19, 21, 23 (PARAFRWN).


________________________________
Nikolaos Adamou, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Business Management 
BMCC / CUNY 






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> From: kline_dekooning at earthlink.net
> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:52:27 -0800
> Subject: [B-Greek] 2COR. 11:1 MOU & AFROSUNHS
>
>
>
> 2Cor. 11:1 Ὄφελον ἀνείχεσθέ μου μικρόν
> τι ἀφροσύνης· ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀνέχεσθέ
> μου.
>
> 2COR. 11:1 OFELON ANEICESQE MOU MIKRON TI AFROSUNHS· ALLA KAI ANECESQE
> MOU.
>
> Two questions, the first on syntax ...
> There has been some disagreement about how to construe the first MOU
> here, either with the verb directly (H.Alford) or with MIKRON TI along
> side of AFROSUNHS (H.A.W. Meyer) or with AFROSUNHS (M.E.Thrall) . And
> then we have ALLA KAI ANECESQE MOU which is a little cryptic. Do we
> supply a substantive e.g., AFROSUNHS and attach MOU to the substantive
> or attach MOU directly to the verb?
>
> ... the second question is about word order ...
>
> M.E. Thrall (2Cor ICC v.2 pp. 658-659 ) suggests that AFROSUNHS is
> "important" because it appears in the middle of the "sense-unit". Not
> sure what to make of that. I have never encountered a linguistic
> argument that the middle of a sentence ("sense-unit"?) is a position
> used to mark an important constituent. On the other hand, AFROSUNHS as
> a clause final constituent might be in some sense marked as
> "important". There is some disagreement about the relative status of
> clause final constituents. Some maintain that clause final position is
> used for focus constituents. I would suggest that AFROSUNHS is in
> focus, so to a certain extent I am agreeing with M.E. Thrall but we
> don't arrive there by the same road.
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>
>
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