[B-Greek] Rev 1:10

Alex Poulos apviper at gmail.com
Thu Jun 24 09:17:44 EDT 2010


I think the question is the question here is does the phrase refer to the
eschatological Day of the Lord, or to Sunday.  The phrase is certainly used
for Sunday in the papyri (If I'm reading BDAG correctly), and it does cite
Rev 1:10 as referring to Sunday.  I'm quite happy to take that as the base
meaning, though apocalyptic language is slippery and considering the nature
of the book, I wouldn't be surprised if the eschaton was in view with this
phrase (I'd actually be surprised if it wasn't).

Alex Poulos
Senior - Computer Science
NC State University

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:13 AM, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>wrote:

> ἐγενόμην ἐν πνεύματι ἐν τῇ κυριακῇ ἡμέρᾳ καὶ ἤκουσα ὀπίσω μου φωνὴν μεγάλην
> ὡς σάλπιγγος
> EGENOMHN EN PNEUMATI EN THi KURIAKHi hHMERAi KAI HKOUSA OPISW MOU FWNHN
> MEGALHN hWS SALPIGGOS
>
> I'm having some difficulty understanding what you consider the problem to
> be here.  Would you like 6 doughnuts or half a dozen?  My best guess is that
> you are referring to the LXX use of the phrase in Amos 5.18 and 20.  If so,
> it hardly seems credible that this could be the reference in Re 1.10 since
> Amos references the eschatological "Day of the Lord", i.e. according to Amos
> the day when God comes in judgement (Amos 5.20 οὐχὶ σκότος ἡ ἡμέρα τοῦ
> κυρίου καὶ οὐ φῶς; OUXI SKOTOS hH hHMERA TOU KURIOU KAI OU FWS?).  One other
> interpretation of EN THi KURIAKHi hHMERAi which I have encountered is that
> of Seventh Day Adventists that it references Easter.  I have no intention of
> discussing that since it is clearly beyond the list protocol though I will
> say that it makes more sense than to take it as the eschatological Day of
> the Lord.
>
>  george
> gfsomsel
>
>
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> From: Gene Baker <ekbaker at essex1.com>
> To: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 7:34:16 PM
> Subject: [B-Greek] Rev 1:10
>
> I am having a discussion with another person about the meaning of THi
> KURIAKHi  hHMERAi  in Rev. 1:10.  He is taking that phrase as equivalent to
> THi hHMERAi TOU KURIOU.  BAG says that the phrase refers to the Lord's Day,
> that is the first day of the week.  My discussion partner say simply that
> BAG has it wrong.  Does anyone know if THi KURIAKHi  hHMERAi  is used as
> the
> equivalent of THi hHMERAi TOU KURIOU?  If BAG has it wrong, so do Alford
> and
> Moffatt.
>
>
>
>   TIA
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>   Gene Baker
>
>   Sterling, IL
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