[B-Greek] Meaning of EIS in Galatians 6:8

Sarah Madden sarah.r.madden at gmail.com
Tue Jun 29 15:00:12 EDT 2010


Oops -- You must mean your mother "sewed" (not "sowed") insignias and
patches to your clothes, right?

Sarah


On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:07 PM, <revdougpickrel at aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Adrian and Iver,
>
> Yes, it does make sense.
> When I was a child my mother sowed insignas "to" my jackets, and
> patches  "to" my pants.  I guess it is proper to sow in the fields, and
> proper
> to sow "to" something.
>
> Doug
> Rev. Doug Pickrel, Litt.D.
> Tejas Valley
> San Antonio, Texas
>
>
>
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> ent: 29. juni 2010 14:26
> ubject: [B-Greek] Meaning of EIS in Galatians 6:8
>
>  When Paul writes:
>
>  OTI hO SPEIRWN EIS THN SARKA hEAUTOU EK THS SARKOS QERISEI FQORAN
>  hO DE SPEIRWN EIS TO PNEUMA EK TOU PNEUMATOS QERISEI ZWHN AIWNION
>
>  SPEIRWN EIS is translated in most Bibles something like 'sows to'.
>
>  But apart from this use in the Bible, I would not generally use the
> expression
>  'sows to' in any other context, so I don't really know what this means.
>
>  What would make more sense to me, given the context of the rest of the
> letter
>  would be if this
>  could be translated:
>
>  For the one who sows by means of the flesh (i.e. trying to be justified by
> the
> > law).....
>  will reap destruction.... the one who sows by means of the Spirit (i.e.
> trying
> > to be justified by faith)
>  ....will reap eternal life
>
>  For this to be valid, it would be necessary to translate EIS as 'by means
>  of' - I had a quick
>  look at BDAG this morning, and although there is a very broad scope for
> this
>  word, I am not
>  convinced that it will stretch to 'by means of' or 'with the agent of' etc
>
>  Is EIS ever used in this way in Greek?
>
>  Many thanks
>
>  Adrian Clark
> Yes, you are right. "By means of" is not a possible translation of EIS.
> If you look at the planting and harvesting metaphor as a whole, it makes
> good
> ense to "sow in the (field of) flesh" and then to harvest ruin/destruction
> from
> that kind of sowing. It is a short recap of Gal 5:19-21.
> imilarly to "sow in the (field of) s/Spirit" and then harvest eternal life
> is
> he opposite and is a recap of Gal 5:22-25. The topic here is how to live
> rather
> than means of justification.
> It is correct that "sows to" does not make sense in English, but you cannot
> xpect literal versions like the KJV, RSV and NIV to make sense of difficult
> assages. Try to look at some other translations to see the options for
> ranslating in a more meaningful way, especially the New Living Translation
> and
> he Contemporary English Version.
> Iver Larsen
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