[B-Greek] EPHESIANS 4:11 - four groups or five?

Iver Larsen iver_larsen at sil.org
Fri Sep 24 10:48:01 EDT 2010


Did you look in the archives for Eph. 4:11 and Eph 4:11? A number of posts have 
covered the question in the past. I doubt that much new can be said.

Iver Larsen

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From: "Blue Meeksbay" <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
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Sent: 24. september 2010 17:19
Subject: [B-Greek] EPHESIANS 4:11 - four groups or five?


> EPHESIANS 4:11 KAI AUTOS EDWKEN TOUS MEN APOSTOLOUS, TOUS DE PROFHTAS, TOUS DE
> EUAGGELISTAS, TOUS DE POIMENAS KAI DIDASKALOUS
>
> I really couldn’t find much on this in the archives, but are there any new
> thoughts on whether the writer of Ephesians is referring to five groups of
> individuals as opposed to four groups of individuals?
>
> I certainly concede that the phrase TOUS DE POIMENAS KAI DIDASKALOUS is being
> set apart from the rest, but this appears to just indicate that these two 
> groups
> of individuals are being considered distinct by the writer, (in some way), but
> not that he is delineating a single group of individuals called Pastor 
> Teachers.
>
>
> If that was the thought he was trying to communicate, would it not have been
> easier to leave out the conjunction and simply put DIDASKALOUS in apposition 
> to
> POIMENAS?
>
> Sincerely,
> Blue Harris




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