[B-Greek] Koine Kashruth (Especially Keyboards)
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 24 08:30:30 EDT 2011
Louis wrote
<Although this thread is getting tedious...>
Getting? I will do my part by PROMISING that this will be my LAST post on this
topic, ever.
If you REALLY want a kosher keyboard, you have to use the Chinese National
keyboard AND the Taiwanese keyboard (two sets of china.)
Happy Easter.
Gunug!
Mark L
Φως Ιλαρον
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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From: cwconrad2 <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
Cc: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>; Dewayne Dulaney
<dewayne.dulaney at gmail.com>; b-greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sun, April 24, 2011 6:00:58 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Koine Kashruth (Especially Keyboards)
I can't believe I started this interminable chatterchain!
On Apr 23, 2011, at 11:42 PM, Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi, Dewayne,
>
><I still think that "De gustandibus non disputandum est" (To each his
>own) is the way to go here, though. (Any thoughts on how to say that
>in Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew?)>
>
>ὁ μὲν οὕτως, ὁ δὲ οὕτως (cf. 1 Cor. 7:7) hO MEN hOUTWS, hO DΕ' hOUTWS
I suspect that the citation should be "Disgustandibus non deputandum"
-- loosely, "Don't let these nasty people put you down."
Sorta like, "Illegitimis non carborundum," pidgen-Latin widely known as
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Anyhow, expressions of that principle of respect for personal preferences in
the Greek tradition might include:
(a) from Thucydides, 2.37.2 (Pericles' Funeral Speech on Athenian culture):
ἐλευθέρως δὲ τά τε πρὸς τὸ κοινὸν πολιτεύομεν καὶ ἐς τὴν πρὸς ἀλλήλους τῶν καθ'
ἡμέραν ἐπιτηδευμάτων ὑποψίαν, οὐ δι' ὀργῆς τὸν πέλας, εἰ καθ' ἡδονήν τι δρᾶι,
ἔχοντες, οὐδὲ ἀζημίους μέν, λυπηρὰς δὲ τῆι ὄψει ἀχθηδόνας προστιθέμενοι.
[ELEUQERWS DE TA TE PROS TO KOINON POLITEUOMEN KAI ES THN PROS ALLHLOUS TWN KAQ'
hHMERAN EPITHDEUMATWN hUPOYIAN, OU DI' ORGHS TON PELAS, EI KAQ' hHDONHN TI DRAI,
ECONTES, OUDE AZHMIOUS MEN, LUPHRAS DE THI OYEI ACQHDONAS PROSTIQEMENOI.]
Something like, "Our political system is open to all and we don't get upset at
people making their own choices or give them nasty looks that hurt their
feelings even if they do no actual harm."
(b) from Romans 14:13-14 (N.B.: wrenched, of course, from context -- as
prooftexts so often are):
13 Μηκέτι οὖν ἀλλήλους κρίνωμεν· ἀλλὰ τοῦτο κρίνατε μᾶλλον, τὸ μὴ τιθέναι
πρόσκομμα τῷ ἀδελφῷ ἢ σκάνδαλον. 14 οἶδα καὶ πέπεισμαι ἐν κυρίῳ Ἰησοῦ ὅτι οὐδὲν
κοινὸν δι' ἑαυτοῦ, εἰ μὴ τῷ λογιζομένῳ τι κοινὸν εἶναι, ἐκείνῳ κοινόν.
[MHKETI OUN ALLHLOUS KRINWMEN· ALLA TOUTO KRINATE MALLON, TO MH TIQENAI
PROSKOMMA TWi ADELFWi H SKANDALON. 14 OIDA KAI PEPEISMAI EN KURIWi IHSOU hOTI
OUDEN KOINON DI' hEAUTOU, EI MH TWi LOGIZOMENWi TI KOINON EINAI, EKEINWi
KOINON.]
Something like, "Let's not be judgmental about each other; rather, let's not put
obstacles in the way of our fellow-believer; my honest opinion in Christ is that
nothing is unkosher unless an individual deems it to be unkosher."
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (ret)
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