[B-Greek] Luke 11:7 from within esothen

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 3 14:38:09 EST 2011


κἀκεῖνος ἔσωθεν ἀποκριθεὶς εἴπῃ· μή μοι κόπους πάρεχε· ἤδη ἡ θύρα κέκλεισται καὶ 
τὰ παιδία μου μετʼ ἐμοῦ εἰς τὴν κοίτην εἰσίν· οὐ δύναμαι ἀναστὰς δοῦναί σοι.

As I've said on more than one occassion, "Context is king."  While I suppose 
ἔσωθεν ESWQEN might be used for "to himself", I don't think that likely.   Cf. 
Lk 11.39, but even there it seems that the comparison is to the inside of a cup 
as opposed to the outside.  In Lk 7.39 when it definitely refers to one's 
"conversing" with himself it uses ἐν ἑαυτῷ EN hEAUTWi. 
 
Now, for the context:
 
Notice that the one man is inside while we still need to determine where the 
other might be (though the suspicion is that he would be outside since the 
householder says "My chilren are in bed together with me."  Does he mean they 
are all in one bed?  Doubtful.  He probably simply means "We've all gone to 
bed."  Then note that he also says "The door is locked."  This would be of 
little significance if he had opened the door and let his neighbor in.  The 
picture we have then is that the householder is inside speaking to his neighbor 
who is outside and not simply talking to himself.
 

 george
gfsomsel 


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From: Greg Marquez <marquezgoyo at gmail.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 11:34:49 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Luke 11:7 from within esothen

Must esothen in Luke 11:7 refer to within the house or can it refer to within 
the man. In other words, can it mean that he said the words in himself, i.e. he 
thought them as opposed to the traditional interpretation that he spoke them 
outloud from within the house?  If Dr. Randall Buth is monitoring the list at 
this time I'd appreciate any insights the hebrew might add.

kakeinos esothen apokritheis eipē mē moi kopous pareche ēdē ē thura kekleistai 
kai ta paidia mou met emou eis tēn koitēn eisin ou dunamai anastas dounai soi

Thanks,

Greg Marquez
MarquezGoyo at Gmail.com
www.ivChristianCenter.com
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