[B-Greek] Use of TO with Infinitive
Albert Pietersma
albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Sun Jan 9 11:10:17 EST 2011
Something like that, Blue. Perhaps a part-time king :-). If the
subject interests you——I have an article on my webpage (http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~piete
rsm/ )with the very title: Context is King--Or is It?
Al
On Jan 9, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Blue Meeksbay wrote:
> Hi Al,
>
> That makes sense. So context is King in the composition literature
> of the New Testament, but is a visiting dignitary in the land of the
> LXX. : >)
>
> Blue Harris
>
>
> From: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
> To: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>
> Cc: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 10:38:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Use of TO with Infinitive
>
> "As George always says, Context is king." Though that is a valid
> principle for composition literature, it is often not valid for the
> translation literature of the LXX. It is one thing to say that only
> context can realize POTENTIAL sense. It is quite another thing to
> say that context creates NEW sense.
> Al
> On Jan 7, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Oun Kwon wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com
> > wrote:
> >>
> > <clipped>
> >> Thus my conclusion that FAGEIN should be understood as a purpose
> infinitive in
> >> verse 20.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, if the only purpose infinitive of FAGEIN in
> the section is
> >> found in verse 33, then it seems the understanding of the RSV and
> the NET would
> >> be correct for then it would explain why Paul would change the
> simple infinitive
> >> FAGEIN of verse 20 into a clear purpose infinitive in verse 33
> with the
> >> addition of EIS TO, thereby showing your conclusion, that the
> infinitive in
> >> verse 20 was a *substantive in a nominal clause with OUK ESTI.*
> >>
> >> As George S. always says, *Context is king.* The problem,
> however, is that
> >> sometimes context can lead us into two different directions, each
> equally legit,
> >> (as seems to be the case here), that is, unless there is a
> specific grammatical
> >> rule that would prohibit one of the directions…thus my enquiry
> into the reason
> >> for the change to the articular infinitive.
> >>
> >
> > <clipped>
> >
> > Speaking of context, I like to keep the contiguity of the text
> keeping
> > v. 20 and v. 33 connected under the theme about the agape-meal in
> the
> > Corinthian church with vv. 21-22 Paul detailing the problem in
> their
> > behavior as he observed; and vv. 23-32 as interpolation about the
> > Lord's Supper itself.
> >
> >
> > My paraphrase:
> > 11:20
> > When you come together for the same purpose [of agape-meal]
> > —as I see —
> > what happens is, it’s not eating the Lord’s supper as such.
> > ...
> > ...
> > 11:33
> > Consequently my brethren, when yoů come together to eat [for
> > agape-feast], take turn.
> >
> > Oun Kwon
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> Albert Pietersma PhD
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>
>
>
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Albert Pietersma PhD
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Email: albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Homepage: http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~pietersm
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