[B-Greek] SATAN in LXX

Ken Penner kpenner at stfx.ca
Mon Jan 10 14:42:08 EST 2011


That was my error of the eye; the reference should be Num 22.22 rather than Lev.
In the second apparatus we find 
ἐνδιαβάλλειν (αὐτόν)] κατάγνωστον αὐτὸν ποιῆσαι 130-321′; τὸ ἑβρ' α' σαταν θ' ἀντικεῖσθαι Procop 864

Ken

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-----Original Message-----
From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Albert Pietersma
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:53 AM
To: Allen Rhoades
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] SATAN in LXX

As for Lev 19:19 the second critical apparatus of Göttingen contains  
the following evidence:
ALLOS KWLUMA SATAN (SATANH M; ASATANH 416). The tradition is therefore  
categorized as non-LXX.
In Lev 22:22 I see no evidence for SATAN in Göttingen or Rahlfs or  
Brooke-McLean. Thus it is unclear to me where that "evidence" comes  
from.
Moreover, what you cite about SATAN from CATTS is rather incomplete  
and incorrect, if for no other reason than that it omits SATAN as a  
verb. It also gives the false impression that SATAN as a noun is  
uniformly translated by DIABOLOS. Furthermore, it fails to distinguish  
between arthrous and anarthrous instances. Lastly, in neither of the  
two Esther passages does DIABOLOS translate SATAN.
Al
On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Allen Rhoades wrote:

>
> When I look at the CCAT entire Septuagint  I see "satan"  used only  
> twice, both  in the 3 Reigns  11:14; the other twenty two times were  
> "diabolos"
>
> I understand that the CCAT is not the apparatus of the Göttingen  
> Septuagint  but what are the two  Leviticus references for Satan?
>
>
> *Sept* Reference 	Accented 	AccentedLatin 	Parsing1 	Parsing2 	Lemma
> 1/3Kgs 11:14 	σαταν 	SATAN 	N 	ASM 	SATAN
> 1/3Kgs 11:14 	σαταν 	SATAN 	N 	NSM 	SATAN
>
>
>
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> *Sept* Reference 	Accented 	AccentedLatin 	Parsing1 	Parsing2 	Lemma
> 1Chr 21:1 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Esth 7:4 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Esth 8:1 	διαβόλῳ 	DIABO/LW| 	N2 	DSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:6 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:7 	διαβόλῳ 	DIABO/LW| 	N2 	DSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:7 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:9 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:12 	διαβόλῳ 	DIABO/LW| 	N2 	DSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 1:12 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:1 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:2 	διαβόλῳ 	DIABO/LW| 	N2 	DSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:2 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:3 	διάβολον 	DIA/BOLON 	N2 	ASM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:4 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:6 	διαβόλῳ 	DIABO/LW| 	N2 	DSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Job 2:7 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Ps 108:6 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Zech 3:1 	διαβολος 	DIA/BOLOS 	N2 	NSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Zech 3:2 	διάβολον 	DIA/BOLON 	N2 	ASM 	DIA/BOLOS
> Zech 3:2 	διάβολε 	DIA/BOLE 	N2 	VSM 	DIA/BOLOS
> 1Mac 1:36 	διάβολον 	DIA/BOLON 	N2 	ASM 	DIA/BOLOS
>
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> On 1/8/2011 8:33 AM, Ken Penner wrote:
>> Other verses that may be of interest for this topic, from the  
>> apparatus of the Göttingen Septuagint:
>>
>> Lev. 19.19 M has SATAN.
>> Lev. 22.22.
>> Zach. 3.1 in manuscript 86 has KAI hO SATAN, and SyH has SATAN.
>> Iob 1.6a Aquila has SATAN instead of DIABOLOS.
>> Iob 2.3 the SyH, Alexandrinus, group 1 of the Lucianic manuscripts,  
>> and Chrysostom add PROS TON SATANAN.
>> Iob 40.16a SATAN in some patristic witnesses.
>>
>> As Al said, it is of interest that the translator transcribes his  
>> text exactly. But I do think that SATAN in 3 Reigns is significant  
>> precisely BECAUSE the translator "withholds his understanding of  
>> the Hebrew word." The word would have stood out to a Greek reader  
>> because it was foreign. How often does this translator transcribe  
>> rather than translate?
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> Ken M. Penner, Ph.D.
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org 
>> ] On Behalf Of Jeff Smelser
>> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 8:24 PM
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: [B-Greek] SATAN in LXX
>>
>> In the LXX, why is it that "SATAN," merely a transliteration of the
>> Hebrew, is used in 3 Kings (=1 Kings) 11:14 (and also in vs. 23 in C.
>> Alexandrinus) where the context simply refers to enemies or  
>> adversaries?
>> I think the same question can perhaps be asked of Sir. 21:27, where I
>> don't see a compelling reason to suppose the text has the devil in  
>> view.
>> Why wasn't the Hebrew translated into Greek in these passages?
>>
>> 3 Ki. 11:14    Καὶ ἤγειρεν κύριος σαταν  
>> τῷ Σαλωμων
>> KAI HGEIREN KURIOS SATAN TWi SALWMWN
>> And the Lord raised adversaries against Solomon
>>
>> καὶ ἦσαν σαταν τῷ Ισραηλ πάσας τὰς  
>> ἡμέρας Σαλωμων
>> KAI HSAN SATAN TWi ISRAEL PASAS TAS hHMERAS SALWMWN
>> and they were adversaries against Israel all the days of Solomon
>>
>> Sir. 21:27
>> ἐν τῷ καταρᾶσθαι ἀσεβῆ τὸν  
>> σατανᾶν αὐτὸς καταρᾶται τὴν  
>> ἑαυτοῦ ψυχήν.
>> EN TWi KATARASQAI ASEBH TON SATANAN AUTOS KATARATAI THN hEAUTOU  
>> YUCHN.
>> An ungodly man, in cursing the adversary, curses his own soul
>>
>> The fact that the word wasn't translated into Greek would seemingly
>> suggest the translators had the devil in view. But this seems strange
>> especially given that when the Devil is clearly in view, the Hebrew  
>> for
>> adversary is translated by the Greek DIABOLOS.
>>
>> The only thing I can imagine is that the translators saw Solomon's
>> adversaries as acting at the behest of the devil, and that by that  
>> time,
>> for them the Greek transliteration SATAN had come to be a name for  
>> the
>> devil. But if that's the explanation, why is it only used in 1 Ki. 11
>> and Sir. 21? Why not in passages much more obviously referring to the
>> devil, e.g. Job 1, Zech 3?  And furthermore, the context in 3 Ki.  
>> 11:14
>> (LXX) requires that we understand indeclinable SATANto be plural in  
>> both
>> instances. In the first part of the verse in the LXX, two adversaries
>> are mentioned, and in the last part of the verse, it says HSAN  
>> SATAN. So
>> given that the LXX points to plural SATAN, it seems difficult to  
>> argue
>> that the translators had the Devil (singular) in view.
>>
>> So then again, why was the word merely transliterated?
>>
>> Jeff Smelser
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