[B-Greek] TINAS in 2 Pet. 3:9

Alastair Haines afhaines at tpg.com.au
Sat Jan 29 11:21:21 EST 2011


Dear Carl,

many thanks for forwarding my message to the list,
and <blush> for jogging my memory that second Peter
was not written by Paul. <he he>

alastair

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Conrad" <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: "B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: "Alastair Haines" <haines at alastairs.com>; "Rod Rogers" 
<rngrogers at embarqmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] TINAS in 2 Pet. 3:9


This very interesting message was clearly intended for the list, although 
sent, so far as I can tell, directly to me alone.
I do think he probably slipped up in referring to Paul as the author of the 
letter, but that's not central to his point.

On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:56 PM, Alastair Haines wrote:

> Dear BGreek people,
>
> It seems Paul uses the Greek indefinite pronoun for precisely the same 
> reason in both cases in verse nine. He cannot rely on the inflected form 
> of the verb alone, as that would suggest an extant antecedent. He cannot 
> use AUTOS for similar reasons. Greek provides him with an indefinite 
> pronoun to mark the introduction of two new (and once only) discourse 
> referents: those (whoever they may be) who CURRENTLY think God is slow, 
> and those (whoever they may be) who will perish IN FUTURE. Other languages 
> would present the semantic propositions Paul wants to make according to 
> different strategies. Here, Paul uses precisely the same Greek strategy 
> twice in the same verse.
>
> I look forward to any corrections of matters of fact, or indications that 
> I'm unclear in expressing the facts.
>
> Best regards,
> alastair




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