[B-Greek] PSALMOS TWi DAUID
Albert Pietersma
albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca
Wed May 4 20:44:27 EDT 2011
As I understand it, the discussion is NOT about TOU or TW DAUID in
just any context but TOU or TW DAUID in the so-called
superscriptions, i.e. either one without immediate context. As far as
the superscriptions are concerned, despite Rahlfs' edition, only TW
DAUID is original. I don't think we should start mixing apples and
oranges.
Al
On May 4, 2011, at 6:43 PM, George F Somsel wrote:
> I find only 5 instances where τοῦ Δαυιδ TOU DAUID appears
> in the Psalms.
>
> 16.1 Προσευχὴ τοῦ Δαυιδ PROSEUXH TOU DAUID
> 25.1 Τοῦ Δαυιδ TOU DAUID
> 26.1 Τοῦ Δαυιδ, πρὸ τοῦ χρισθῆναι TOU
> DAUID, PRO TOU XRISQHNAI
> 27.1 Τοῦ Δαυιδ TOU DAUID.
> 131.1 Μνησθητι, κυριε, τοῦ Δαυιδ MNHSQHTI,
> KURIE, TOU DAUID
>
> As you can see, some of these have a context which would make the
> use of the genitive comprehensible, but some do not.
>
>
> george
> gfsomsel
>
>
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> From: Jason Hare <jason at thehebrewcafe.com>
> To: Albert Pietersma <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>
> Cc: B-Greek List <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 1:01:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] PSALMOS TWi DAUID
>
> Al,
>
> The Hebrew לְדָוִד [L:DfWiD] is ambiguous as it is, meaning
> that a
> Psalm with this attribution could be either "by David" or "for/to
> David."
>
> Does the LXX translate this title in different ways, at times as TOU
> DAUID (τοῦ Δαυίδ) and at times as TWi DAUID (τῷ
> Δαυίδ)? Meaning, not
> within a given context but only as part of the title of a Psalm?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason Hare
> Rehovot, Israel
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> צורי וגואלי
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Albert Pietersma
> <albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > When ancient evidence explains that TOU DAUID means "by David" and
> TW
> > DAUID "having to do with Dauid," it would seem rather farfetched to
> > have recourse to Homer, the more so in light of the translation mode
> > of the Greek Psalter. Furthermore, it is simply not true that
> Psalter
> > Greek can almost always be explained as "traditional Greek." Sorry,
> > Mark, but this is so well known that it scarcely needs
> demonstration.
> > Al
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