[B-Greek] "WRITE, WRITE WRITE' (was "Suggestions Please!")

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Mon May 30 10:05:16 EDT 2011


I don't know how many times we have to say this George, or in how many ways.
If you read good Greek at the same time as you write you will catch a lot of your mistakes.
Not all of them, but enough of them.  One's written Greek starts off horrible, but it
does get better.  Everyone I know who writes and reads Greek regularly experiences this.
With spoken Greek it's even more so the case.  But you have to start somewhere.

You can do it Carl's way of course, work through the comp books first and practice
re-writing real Greek before you attempt to communicate with real people.  That
works fine.  But the other way around works too.

And remember, the goal is not ultimately to write good Greek but to improve your
reading fluency.  I agree with Carl that one should strive to go beyond pigin Greek,
but as Louis points out, the important thing is to get the forms to become automatic.
Even pigin Greek accomplishes this.  Plus, one sometimes chooses to use pigin
Greek to communicate with beginners.  When you chat on line or speak face to
face, you don't have time for anything BUT pigin Greek. 

If there is someone whose reading fluency has been harmed by writing or reading
less than perfect Greek, they should come forward.


Mark L



               

FWSFOROS MARKOS

--- On Mon, 5/30/11, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] "WRITE, WRITE WRITE' (was "Suggestions Please!")
To: "Mark Lightman" <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>, "B Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>, "Randall Buth" <randallbuth at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 7:47 AM


The problem arises when one begins to write Johnny Walker Greek and there is no one to correct.

 george
gfsomsel 



… search for truth, hear truth, 
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth, 
defend the truth till death.


- Jan Hus
_________ 






From: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
To: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>; Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 6:20:14 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] "WRITE, WRITE WRITE' (was "Suggestions Please!")

Randall egrapsed

< For mentors, you have all the ancient authors...>

Indeed you do, and some of those ancient authors, to wit John the Revelator and
the LXX translators, wrote in less than proper Greek.  Who will mentor the mentors?

If writing Holy Ghost Greek was good enough for these guys, it's good enough for
me.

George wrote

<It is somewhat synonymous to the inmates running the assylum.>

Hi, George,

If this was good enough for the
 Athenians, it's good enough for me.

Mark L

Φωσφορος

              

FWSFOROS MARKOS

--- On Sun, 5/29/11, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>
Subject: [B-Greek] "WRITE, WRITE WRITE' (was "Suggestions Please!")
To: "B Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, May 29, 2011, 11:52 PM

>While I don't wish to imply that writing is not a valuable tool in learning a
language, I would be rather cautious in advocating its use.  Without a
qualified
mentor to correct missteps, it can result in bad practices becoming
 ingrained.
>

George, I would be careful about the advice because it can easily turn
into a justification for not learning Greek, not internalizing it like a real
language. For mentors, you have all the ancient authors, just keep
paying
attention
as you read and as an ancient author says something in a way
that surprises you.

EIHS ERRWMENOS
IWANHS

-- 
Randall Buth, PhD
www.biblicallanguagecenter.com
Biblical Language Center
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